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Old 11 June 2005, 17:21   #1
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Mooring villains

I feel I must be morphing into Victor Meldrew, because so many people seem to piss me off so easily these days...

Much has been written about damage caused to two boats at Ribex on another thread, due to a lack of care by another ribster.

On the Sunday of the Whitsun weekend, Yarmouth was absolutely heaving with ribs and we rafted up about 5 out. We took a stern line to the wall to straighten our raft and went off for lunch, checking on the boat every 20-30 minutes. (Yes, I plead guilty to the anal allegation)

When we went back, there was a 5m blue Avon from the raft behind contentedly nuzzling up against our engine casing, as the raft inshore was hopelessly twisted. I rummaged through the Avon's lockers and put a couple of his lines together so that I could straighten his raft with a sternline from his boat to the quay. Bugger me if he hadn't taken it off 20 minutes later when we went to check on our boat again !

But today takes the biscuit. We moored up 4 out with a Coastline 7.5m, inboard diesel with a bit of teak on the engine casing, inside of us. We used three fenders between our boat and this Coastline and moored up securely using painter, sternline and a single spring as the tide was beginning to drop.

We emerged into the bright daylight to find that the Coastline had gone, our spring and painter had simply been cast adrift and just our sternline was tied onto the rib inshore with a scope of around 14 feet, which meant that our boat was now free to clatter any one of three boats in the raft ahead. The crew of the rib to which we were now tied, said that they had helped to tie the Coastline up in the firstplace because their crew didn't seem to have a clue.

I will also accept a charge of being a snob in some matters, but I just think these people are inconsiderate scum.

Rant over.

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Old 11 June 2005, 17:58   #2
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You dont say where exactly you moored up to day old stick
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Old 12 June 2005, 10:06   #3
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You dont say where exactly you moored up to day old stick
Ah yes. Another of my degenerative failings, along with drbbling from the mouth, withering of my limbs and bloating of my stomach.

Er, Yarmouth again.
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Old 12 June 2005, 13:25   #4
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I feel I must be morphing into Victor Meldrew
I don't believe it

We had a chat about your predicament today Brian and the consensus was that :
  • we were very sympathetic
  • peeps should treat other boats as they should their own (i.e.with care & consideration)
  • we totally agree with you
  • summer's here and everyone's out & mooring is becoming difficult
  • a lovely lady was so helpful to us yesterday as we moored next to her Cruiser. She offered to help & let 7 of us tramp across her boat in the peaceful location she had chosen near the Folly so thank goodness most peeps are great 'out there'
  • it wasn't us was it ?
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I will also accept a charge of being a snob in some matters,
Do you think you might be the only snob in the village ?

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Old 12 June 2005, 15:19   #5
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Do you think you might be the only snob in the village ?

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Maybe, but one thing I don't neeed is a good xxxx up the xxxx.
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If only . . .

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peeps should treat other boats as they should their own (i.e.with care & consideration)
Sounds like Brian's culprits didn't even give a f*** about their own boats, let alone anyone else's.

No-one likes red tape, but it's a good argument for compulsory boat numbers. At least you can make a note of the boat you were last moored up against.

Presume there was no damage Brian?
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I was in Yarmouth yesterday and I know what you mean.

We were next to the wall and when I went to check the boat there was another rib about to moor alongside. Since we were there anyway he waited until we cast off. But I have to say If he had moored next to me I would not have a clue what to do to get my boat out and secure his. We were not taught this on my RYA2.

Can anyone offer advice. Is this a candidate for an FAQ?
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Old 13 June 2005, 12:37   #9
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Can anyone offer advice.
If there's something specific you don't know and want to learn good methods and practice then I think it's always worth asking an instructor if they will do a few hours' tuition.

Invaluable in my view. Well worth spending a few bob and there are loads of great PB Instructors around.

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If there's something specific you don't know and want to learn good methods and practice ....

He's asking. Just tell him how best to do it.
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Can anyone offer advice. Is this a candidate for an FAQ?
Tried and tested method, which might not be correct.
Firstly you need atleast 2 people.
Take a bow and stern line from the next boat out and pass to someone on shore.
Cast yourself off from the shore and boat outside you. Remeber to leave "His" lines on "his" boat.
Slip out either ahead or astern under the bow/stearn line of the other boat(s). Handing your boat out may be wiser than using the engine if there are people moored ahead and behind you.
The crew on the shore pulls boat(s) in to the shore as you go, and secures them as he would his own. Breast lines, springs and fenders as required.
The crew the returns any borrowed lines to where they came from, and clambers over every one to get to where you are lying outside the raft.

Just an additional note. You should always cross over the stern of a boat, never over the bows. You can get a quick lesson in human biology if you fall thro' an open forehatch.
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Good post Mark disagree with one thing. I was always taught that the stern of a Craft (Mobo or sail) is the "Private" area and always cross boat over bow, being aware that a fore hatch may be open

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Old 13 June 2005, 13:05   #13
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You are quite right. Stupid me. I was thinking of something else.
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Old 13 June 2005, 13:06   #14
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He's asking. Just tell him how best to do it.

To be honest Jeff there's lots there in Whiteshoes' articulate post.
Oh and subsequent posts !

But I've seen each person has their idiosyncracies in mooring so he's got to work out his own way in the end. I'm no-one to give definitive advice .

I also prefer to learn by doing Can't beat a bit of kinaesthetic learning

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Could always take a digi pic of adjacent boats after mooring up.. So if your rib isn't in pristine condition after getting back to it, and if the other boat has buggered off, at least you will have a piccy of the boat so you can let their toobs down next time..
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