Menai speed limit?

Henby · 13 May 2014, 17:57

Having travelled through the straits a number of times, I must confess to being slightly aggravated at the section of speed limit( I think it's 5knots?) which is an uncomfortable if not uneconomical speed. Question is, why? Is it at all times? Is it enforceable?

Landlockedpirate · 13 May 2014, 18:03

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Originally Posted by Henby

Having travelled through the straits a number of times, I must confess to being slightly aggravated at the section of speed limit( I think it's 5knots?) which is an uncomfortable if not uneconomical speed. Question is, why? Is it at all times? Is it enforceable?

You have never sat on a moored boat have you ?

Speeding past moored boats is antisocial and in some cases, dangerous.

kerny · 13 May 2014, 18:06

Its because it is marina and sailing area, pita I know, also they have a guy with a speed gun that will chase you but when he catches you I'm not sure what he can do

but yeh what he says above

Silverfox · 13 May 2014, 18:17

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Originally Posted by kerny

Its because it is marina and sailing area, pita I know, also they have a guy with a speed gun that will chase you but when he catches you I'm not sure what he can do

but yeh what he says above

He can't do anything, but he'll give you a royal telling off.

It is enforceable all the time, and it is to do with the moorings, marina and sailing club as has already been said.

HUMBER P4VWL · 13 May 2014, 18:22

I'd argue it came in to force long after the moorings and sailing club. It came in to being after they built all the new houses/apartments to the NE side of the dock and the jet skis were just tanking it around none stop. The noise was insufferable and the speed limit enforced. The incidental benefit for the people on moorings was I'm sure appreciated.

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kerny · 13 May 2014, 18:24

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Originally Posted by Silverfox

He can't do anything, but he'll give you a royal telling off.

It is enforceable all the time, and it is to do with the moorings, marina and sailing club as has already been said.

Ah!! a past victim then Will ??

Silverfox · 13 May 2014, 18:27

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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

I'd argue it came in to force long after the moorings and sailing club. It came in to being after they built all the new houses/apartments to the NE side of the dock and the jet skis were just tanking it around none stop. The noise was insufferable and the speed limit enforced. The incidental benefit for the people on moorings was I'm sure appreciated.

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Makes sense.

Silverfox · 13 May 2014, 18:28

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Originally Posted by kerny

Ah!! a past victim then Will ??

No... But M'Lurd I know a man who has been....

steco1958 · 13 May 2014, 18:31

Must say when we were up there, unless you are told about the yellow buoy with the 5kts markings you would pass them by without a second glance

Barrowboy · 13 May 2014, 18:39

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Originally Posted by steco1958

Must say when we were up there, unless you are told about the yellow buoy with the 5kts markings you would pass them by without a second glance

The Menai Strait chart tells you all you need to know!

rocknrolla · 13 May 2014, 18:45

[QUOTE=HUMBER P4VWL;618175]I'd argue it came in to force long after the moorings and sailing club. It came in to being after they built all the new houses/apartments to the NE side of the dock and the jet skis were just tanking it around none stop. The noise was insufferable and the speed limit enforced. The incidental benefit for the people on moorings was I'm sure appreciated.

Jolly Good

Chris Caton · 13 May 2014, 18:48

the man with the speed gun works for the harbour master at Caernarfon, so I guess if they really did want to do something they could, but as far as I'm aware it's usually just a gentle reminder, but I would agree with HP it was the jet skiers that caused the original problem. as Tony said, it's on the charts so no excuse really

HUMBER P4VWL · 13 May 2014, 19:30

Weren't two certain boats (whistling) challenged and they very politely told him where to go... As one was towing the other and he nearly went between them in his haste to chastise them.

I think some kind of mediation was involved to prevent any damage being done..... to anyone....

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telcowilliam · 13 May 2014, 20:19

I have sat on a mooring many a night in this location and it is surprising how much a boat doing over the five knot limit causes, hot water scalds aren't nice!!

AJ. · 13 May 2014, 20:47

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Originally Posted by kerny

Ah!! a past victim then Will ??

And it's not well marked its a 5 knt limit but he is a jolly nice fella when I PeterM and Whisper met him!

kerny · 13 May 2014, 20:49

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Originally Posted by telcowilliam

I have sat on a mooring many a night in this location and it is surprising how much a boat doing over the five knot limit causes, hot water scalds aren't nice!!

Aye but Mike that's when you are playing posh scouser in yer champagne palace

I wish I had took a pic of you going to Ireland on your rib on our first trip there with your dodgy Irish passenger who blagged a lift off you at Christycalch's place and you showing your builder ar*se off with a windjammer on... classic

Deekus · 13 May 2014, 21:57

Ah ok, Ill hold my hand's up.........
I am a past victim.

Yes it's true the 5 knot marker buoys are easy to miss at both end's of the area. I missed one as I entered the area in my early days of ribbing and first outing down the straits. Before I knew it the guy was all over me like a rash with a loud hailer and blue flashing lights.
I was asked to kill the engine, he came along side and tied up to my Rib.

To be fair to the fella he didnt have an attitude, he simply wanted to make me aware of the speed limit and the reasons for it, namely the moorings, sailing club, and populated area. He gave me a copy of the chart of the area and proceded on his way.

I had no problem with our conversation and dont object to adhering to the speed limit. To be honest, as far as I am aware it is the only section of the straits where a 5 knot limit exists so only happy to comply

Henby · 13 May 2014, 22:44

Thanks for the replies guys, I thought that keeping well away from moored boats would have sufficed, but hey rules are rules! I did think of asking how fast the chap in the little launch could go...but then Chris says he works for harbourmaster at Caernarfon(which happens to be where we are based) so perhaps not wise!?

HUMBER P4VWL · 14 May 2014, 04:29

There's a rather large RIB with some meaty Smokers on the back that he sometimes uses. But if it's his Shetland, could be worth a punt at WOT police, camera, action style! ;-)

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Henby · 14 May 2014, 07:29

I can just imagine the scenes on the local news....." harbour authorities use "T-pack" manoeuvre to stop run away rib in the Swellies!"