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05 August 2011, 23:01
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Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
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Made a John Halls of my calculations.
Well I thought that I would be able to fit my new rib in the garage, I knew that It would be a tight fit getting it through one of the single doors, but I didn't reckon on the width of the new trailer, the wheels stick out a lot more than my last one. I now wish I had a double door fitted when it was built anyway to save me having to pay out good cash to have a double door fitted, I wonder if anyone knows if you can get some sort of contraption to off load the rib from the trailer it will have to have castors or small wheels on it, so I can manoeuvre it into a diagonal position to fit in the garage.
Does anyone make anything like this, all help appreciated,
many thanks,
kerny.
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05 August 2011, 23:47
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something like that? I am sure you could something fabricated to fit?
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05 August 2011, 23:56
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Country: UK - England
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something like that? I am sure you could something fabricated to fit?
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That looks ideal, did you make that SPR or did you buy it from somewhere ??
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06 August 2011, 00:01
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Sorry ....i googled boat cradles with casters! I saw them in UK ages ago was going to by one for club rib - but cant find it...they used extensivly in workshops and showrooms...
http://www.riwaboating.nl
The picture came from above...I am sure any fabicator could rattle something up...
S.
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06 August 2011, 00:04
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06 August 2011, 00:05
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Country: UK - England
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Cheer's mate , It looks Ideal , with some insulation piping from B+Q taped round it ,that would be perfect.
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06 August 2011, 00:08
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Boat cradle - all players of the boating and marine industry
Has few manufactuers - prob all in USA but gives you ideas...
S.
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06 August 2011, 00:14
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This was the company:
SBS Trailers Accessories
S.
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06 August 2011, 00:21
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Wolverhampton, that's tony t 's neck of the woods. thanks SPR it's got to be cheaper than getting a garage double door fitted. I hope.
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06 August 2011, 09:10
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Winching it on and off a cradle everytime you use it will very quickly become a pita. And you will still need to store the trailer somewhere.
Can you swap the trailer for a narrower one?
Can you store the boat somewhere else keeping the garage free for other toys and clutter!?
Or if it is easier you could just give the boat to me and I will "look after it" for you.
Neil
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06 August 2011, 09:35
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Winching it on and off a cradle everytime you use it will very quickly become a pita. And you will still need to store the trailer somewhere.
Can you swap the trailer for a narrower one?
Can you store the boat somewhere else keeping the garage free for other toys and clutter!?
Or if it is easier you could just give the boat to me and I will "look after it" for you.
Neil
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Neil, the latter comment is defo out of the question
as for being a pita you are correct it will be, I do have quite a long drive to keep it on for short periods, but I would like to keep it in the garage for example going away on hols etc. As for the trailer it is quite a well built chunky bit of kit and I think that it would be a shame to swop it for a lesser model, but is an option.
If the cradle like in the first pick from SPR had some sort of tubular rollers fitted over the hull supports it might just make it easer to winch on and off.
Someone on here, hopefully might have already done something similar.
Steve.
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06 August 2011, 09:43
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I'd vote for a new garage door or narrower trailer every time. Our boat/trailer combo was made to pass through the garage door with millimetres to spare. As the approach to the garage is on a slight slope - hardly visible but still significant -we winch it in with a 12v Defender recovery style winch. I can't imagine the hassle in off-loading it onto a cradle. If you go the cradle route how do you stop the boat arse end hitting the deck when the centre of gravity moves aft of the rear rollers?
Our 90hp RC 5.3 weighs about 1100kg+ kitted...you could be a bit less than that but that's still a lot of mass to be man handling.
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06 August 2011, 09:51
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This is a bit like my uncle who's bought a new car he's been wanting for ages. He thought the large door mirrors were elec folding and only when arriving home he found they didn't.
He's just had a builder modify his garage so the car goes in!
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06 August 2011, 10:00
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This is a bit like my uncle who's bought a new car he's been wanting for ages. He thought the large door mirrors were elec folding and only when arriving home he found they didn't.
He's just had a builder modify his garage so the car goes in!
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I would just keep jumping out of the car and fold them in myself.
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06 August 2011, 10:07
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I would just keep jumping out of the car and fold them in myself.
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Modify the door Steve, sorry it's not what you want to hear
By the time you've scratched the hull, scuffed the tubes, knackered your back, scraped the skeg on the floor (you'll have to have the engine tilted up with a dolly as they're close to the floor, which is going to add more length to the boat) You'll wish you'd done the job properly in the first place, door it is
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06 August 2011, 10:42
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Just a thought, bit IF you go the dolly route, have you thought of knocking something up in wood? If they can use wooden trailers in South America, I am sure that a dolly would be possible............
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06 August 2011, 10:56
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Is it that the wheels are wider than the garage opening... or is it just a difficult process to get it angled across the garage?
If the latter these are really good for moving the trailer in all directions...
Liftmaster Car Vehicle Wheel Skate Dolly Pair 1120KG | eBay
BTW uncle is well into retirement so not keen on hopping out of the car to fold in mirrors. His garage mod actually involved taking out the up&over door plus its chunky timber frame and fitting an elec roller shutter door. This gives a full width opening back to the brick pillars and just gained him the room needed.
You can see in this video the door fits behind the opening with no loss of width... any use in your situation?
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06 August 2011, 11:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander
Is it that the wheels are wider than the garage opening... or is it just a difficult process to get it angled across the garage?
If the latter these are really good for moving the trailer in all directions...
Liftmaster Car Vehicle Wheel Skate Dolly Pair 1120KG | eBay
BTW uncle is well into retirement so not keen on hopping out of the car to fold in mirrors. His garage mod actually involved taking out the up&over door plus its chunky timber frame and fitting an elec roller shutter door. This gives a full width opening back to the brick pillars and just gained him the room needed.
You can see in this video the door fits behind the opening with no loss of width... any use in your situation?
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Yep it's the wheels that just stand proud of the opening thanks for taking the time to put up the video re - your uncles wing mirrors !! up norf we are renowned for looking after our penny's but not quite as bad as our Yorkshire and Scottish friends.
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06 August 2011, 12:24
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Not sure what trailer your boat is on just now. My last trailer was an Indespension roller-coaster (750kg unbraked). A really good solid trailer. The boat (Zodiac Pro 7-man) sat quite low, but the wheels were wide. So much so - I fitted marker lights on the mudguards when I was hauling at night so I could see the width (passing other cars on single-track roads, etc). My new boat (RIBcraft) is on a Rapide unbraked 750kg trailer. The boat sits a lot higher, partly due to the deep v hull, but the wheel width is significantly less. Worst case scenario if my boat didn't fit in the garage - would be to deflate the tubes. Luckily it all fits. Forget the trolley idea - it will drive you nuts unless you have access to a forklift!
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06 August 2011, 12:45
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Not sure what trailer your boat is on just now. My last trailer was an Indespension roller-coaster (750kg unbraked). A really good solid trailer. The boat (Zodiac Pro 7-man) sat quite low, but the wheels were wide. So much so - I fitted marker lights on the mudguards when I was hauling at night so I could see the width (passing other cars on single-track roads, etc). My new boat (RIBcraft) is on a Rapide unbraked 750kg trailer. The boat sits a lot higher, partly due to the deep v hull, but the wheel width is significantly less. Worst case scenario if my boat didn't fit in the garage - would be to deflate the tubes. Luckily it all fits. Forget the trolley idea - it will drive you nuts unless you have access to a forklift!
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I have deflate the tubes but its the wheels that stand proud of the garage door, mine is the same as your last trailer. Been looking at 15ft Georgian doors and priced at 2k
Wife not happy.
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