Leeway Ribs - Page 2

John Kennett · 14 June 2006, 09:31

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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite

The reason they dont want to pick on other rib builders is because they know they will be taken to court qiucker than they can say "OH B*LLOKS" and its easy to pick on the new smaller business.

Actually, I don't think that's the reason.

You came onto the forums to publicise your RIBs, claiming that the hull design was all your own work. It turned out that you weren't telling the truth, and you had splashed an existing hull design. Some people don't seem to mind being lied to, others take offence.

I have no doubt that any other company, large or small, would get exactly the same treatment that you have.

John

LeewayComposite · 14 June 2006, 09:57

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Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller

No Lee, it's not even really coz you're a splasher.
It's because you're a LIAR and a JERK and you don't even have the guts to be honest with people! Those of us well enough in 'the know' to see what's happening, take your lies as an insult to our intelligence! Simple as that mate.

Oh well no sleep lost here. please dont call me mate as im no mate of yours.

if a boat building company is to start with a shell and adapt to there own use and change the design why would they advitise that?

can i borrow your phantom 28??

LeewayComposite · 14 June 2006, 09:58

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Originally Posted by John Kennett

Actually, I don't think that's the reason.

You came onto the forums to publicise your RIBs, claiming that the hull design was all your own work. It turned out that you weren't telling the truth, and you had splashed an existing hull design. Some people don't seem to mind being lied to, others take offence.

I have no doubt that any other company, large or small, would get exactly the same treatment that you have.

John

Its is my design. i dont see any other ribs the same??? do you?? i think not.

Jonny Fuller · 14 June 2006, 10:04

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Originally Posted by John Kennett

Actually, I don't think that's the reason.

You came onto the forums to publicise your RIBs, claiming that the hull design was all your own work. It turned out that you weren't telling the truth, and you had splashed an existing hull design. Some people don't seem to mind being lied to, others take offence.

I have no doubt that any other company, large or small, would get exactly the same treatment that you have.

John

LeewayComposite · 14 June 2006, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller

if you think its borring why post on the thread??

is that a no for borrowing your phantom 28?

look at "my design" 8.3m

Jonny Fuller · 14 June 2006, 10:16

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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite

is that a no for borrowing your phantom 28?

Would almost be funny, if for one second, I thought you had the knowledge and skill to take an accurate copy, as it is, your work is so feckin shoddy, that appealing to the 'Skoda' market is all you can do.

The 'Super Estelle' by Leeway Fibs, "Simple composites, from a simple LIAR"

See ya 'Mate'.

LeewayComposite · 14 June 2006, 10:43

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Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller

Would almost be funny, if for one second, I thought you had the knowledge and skill to take an accurate copy, as it is, your work is so feckin shoddy, that appealing to the 'Skoda' market is all you can do.

The 'Super Estelle' by Leeway Fibs, "Simple composites, from a simple LIAR"

See ya 'Mate'.

i dont make copys of anything so no i could not make an accurate copy as i dont know how.

my work is fare from shoddy (as you call it). i have been making ribs for over five years. i have never had anyone ever complain. i have 100% satisfaction from every customer. so how you can you tell me i do shoddy work? I think you are the jerk not me. oh i have made moulds for the MERCEDES BENZ SLR MCLAREN so i am more than capbleble of building a boat

Jonny Fuller · 14 June 2006, 10:54

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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite

so how you can you tell me i do shoddy work?

Because I've looked at one with my own eyes.

BTW, Falcon have been making boats for a lot longer than five years.

They don't seem to have learned much either.

Similar market I guess.

LeewayComposite · 14 June 2006, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller

Because I've looked at one with my own eyes.

BTW, Falcon have been making boats for a lot longer than five years.

They don't seem to have learned much either.

Similar market I guess.

I have been making boats for longer than five years as well. i build to the full ISO standards to comply to the rcd which is a reason why i would buy British and not foreign. but if people out there want to buy a boat built in a cheap country to no standards then that is there choice.

to post a pic of a piece of sh*t some other company has made just makes you look even more of a jerk as this thread is for leeway.

Mr-d · 14 June 2006, 11:10

Jerry! Jerry!
I'll just sit back and enjoy the popcorn.

No but seriously, I think we get the point here, and as a whole on the "Leeway" subject.

1. You don't like "his" work/design.
2. I'm sure he offers a nice product for a certain market.
3. The product in the end is still what it was set out to be, a RIB.

That some people's opinion is that the hull design was stolen doesn't change the product does it?

Why lower yourself and start calling eachother names like "Jerk" and so forth?
Also, going down to build quality, I haven't actually seen one for myself, but I'm sure that if the quality was shoddy, he wouldn't have the customers.

At the end of the day everyone is entitled to their own opinion I suppose, but why not give it a rest. Your points have been made and noted.

LeewayComposite · 14 June 2006, 11:13

I feel sorry for people like YAKAYALE who try to get advise off this site and have to come and view for themself to answer there own questions because of idiots that dont even like ribs.

Alan · 14 June 2006, 11:16

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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite

I have been making boats for longer than five years as well. i build to the full ISO standards to comply to the rcd which is a reason why i would buy British and not foreign. but if people out there want to buy a boat built in a cheap country to no standards then that is there choice.

to post a pic of a piece of sh*t some other company has made just makes you look even more of a jerk as this thread is for leeway.

I asked this question before but received no answer. To what ISO Standard do you work Lee?

LeewayComposite · 14 June 2006, 11:22

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Originally Posted by Alan

I asked this question before but received no answer. To what ISO Standard do you work Lee?

In this country you need to follow what we call ISO (International Standards Organization) standards. they set specifications to follow to make the craft comply to the rcd (Recreational Craft Directive) so the craft can be CE marked, The CE mark is the manufacturer’s claim that the product meets the essential specifications and is a safe craft.

Alan · 14 June 2006, 11:26

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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite

In this country you need to follow what we call ISO (International Standards Organization) standards. they set specifications to follow to make the craft comply to the rcd (Recreational Craft Directive) so the craft can be CE marked, The CE mark is the manufacturer’s claim that the product meets the essential specifications and is a safe craft.

OK thanks for that, things are a little clearer now. Is there an actual ISO Std for boatbuilding though? I've heard about stuff like ISO9000 (I think it is) in the auto industry, whats the standard you build to for RIB building?

LeewayComposite · 14 June 2006, 11:30

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Originally Posted by Alan

OK thanks for that, things are a little clearer now. Is there an actual ISO Std for boatbuilding though? I've heard about stuff like ISO9000 (I think it is) in the auto industry, whats the standard you build to for RIB building?

if you join the bmf (british marine fedoration) they can tell you what standards you need to follow, but you need to purchase them.

Alan · 14 June 2006, 11:34

OK So you are not ISO registered then?

LeewayComposite · 14 June 2006, 11:36

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Originally Posted by Alan

OK So you are not ISO registered then?

No. you need to register with the BMF (british marine federation) for your builders code.

Jonny Fuller · 14 June 2006, 11:51

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Originally Posted by Mr-d

I'm sure that if the quality was shoddy, he wouldn't have the customers.

Why not? Falcon do, as did Skoda at the height of their 'Shiteness'.

If a Skoda Estelle, is the only NEW car they could afford, it was a attractive deal.

Of course, Skoda were at least responsible for their own design.

I don't really care that Leeway Composhites copied the 18 & 25 Phantom, it goes on all the time. It just gauls me that he's such a dishonest, lying toerag, and continues to to insult my, and others intelligence with his lies.

I had decided some time ago to leave the subject be. But, like JK said, some people are happy to be fed shit, some are offended.
Leeways Thick skin, stupidity and dillusions of adequacy beggars belief, and I weakened.

Matt · 14 June 2006, 12:10

Toerag?

John Kennett · 14 June 2006, 12:23

OK, we're going round in circles again.

I'm sure that there is enough to read in the various Leeway threads for anyone to make up their own mind.

John