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Old 28 April 2009, 06:51   #21
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Hi Mike

I did read your post and liked how you had used the fome as a core and not ply did this work? Your old post finished before the project had, do you have any more photos of how it looked as you where getting closer to the finish? What did you use as the deck in the end?

I am sticking with ply but I am now going to go for 18mm x 3. my hope is that the extra thickness will make up for any construction issues? I got a sheet of 6mm last night and made up a template to use for cutting the 18mm sheets. And have made up a template for the top of the new bow locker. I am guessing that was the easy way to do this.
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Managed to ship the morris off. so garage is now free for 5.4 build to start.

question how many holes can you have in a transom ?
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Managed to ship the morris off. so garage is now free for 5.4 build to start.

question how many holes can you have in a transom ?
You didn't use a chainsaw, you used a shot gun!

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Thats a fair few holes mate!
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Matt, thats gonna be one new searider when you've finnished it mate!
Lookin good so far
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question how many holes can you have in a transom ?
woodworm?
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I can assure you there is zero wood in this rib at the moment.
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and the wood has started to go back in now...
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Looks like its coming on well mate, nice to see RIBnet on the laptop in the background!
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and the wood has started to go back in now...
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Looks good. What thickness ply is that? Still haven't got round to finishing mine; 2/3 of the deck is in.
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MDT and Tim,
something I can't work out is how you glass the underside down on a searider deck. You've only got a small area where it comes into contact with the hull haven't you?
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something I can't work out is how you glass the underside down on a searider deck. You've only got a small area where it comes into contact with the hull haven't you?
Right then I have used 9mm marine ply. This is braced via ribs. I have cut the hull out right out till the hull and there is about an inch of deck to glue the hull to.

I have stuck the deck down in 60cm sections so is quite easy to sort out the supports and glass the underside as you go.

I shall post some photos if you would like ?
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Come on then lets see some pictures............

About to start on exactly the same job on a 4m so trying to get as many hints and tips as possible!
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I flo-coated the underside of the ply, and then bonded the deck sections onto the hull using a product made by the Sikaflex people (high strength component bonding compound or something, £50 a tube!). I then fiberglassed around the edges and over the top of the deck (there is a decent amount of hull to glass onto). As has been said there is still one more section of deck to go in (did it in three sections). Once all is in and glassed over, I will flo-coat it and install the console.
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About to start on exactly the same job on a 4m so trying to get as many hints and tips as possible!
shall get some photos tomorrow for you showing how I have done the floor and under it. not saying it is right mind you
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Thanks for the info Tim and MDT.
As your keeping the hull original Tim it's your way that most interest me. Looking at MDT's pictures of the hull with the deck removed it looks such a small surface area to bond too.
And did one tube bond the whole lot? (50 quid )
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Looking at MDT's pictures of the hull with the deck removed it looks such a small surface area to bond too.
There is over an inch of hull that is available for bonding the deck to on each side. But this is still almost a meter wide so there would be quite a lot of flex in the deck so I have braced it with ribs and glassed these in to provide support.

And SO far the deck I have replaced and the bow locker is ROCK solid. I have used west system fairing compound mixed in with resin to seat the new deck into the hull. £7 spent so far plus the resin. It is top stuff you can mix it up to the consistency you want and flow it into the gap between the ply and the hull.

Shall take some photos tonight unless the red wine calls stronger than the garage.
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There is over an inch of hull that is available for bonding the deck to on each side. But this is still almost a meter wide so there would be quite a lot of flex in the deck so I have braced it with ribs and glassed these in to provide support.

And SO far the deck I have replaced and the bow locker is ROCK solid. I have used west system fairing compound mixed in with resin to seat the new deck into the hull. £7 spent so far plus the resin. It is top stuff you can mix it up to the consistency you want and flow it into the gap between the ply and the hull.

Shall take some photos tonight unless the red wine calls stronger than the garage.
I think you've done it the best way if the flooding hull is to be permanently no more mate. Where as Tim's approach still leaves that option.

How much weight do you think the rib supports will add?
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