help please - cabin rib 'design requirements' - Page 3

willk · 03 February 2014, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Ian M

Putting tubes on a gin palace does not make a RIB.

Corollary:

Putting gin on a RIB does not make a Palace.

PeterM · 03 February 2014, 19:46

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Originally Posted by willk

Putting gin on a RIB does not make a Palace.

Depends how much gin.....

Ian M · 03 February 2014, 19:49

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Originally Posted by PeterM

Depends how much gin.....

biffer · 03 February 2014, 20:09

Poly said if he could afford a cabin rib he could afford a B&B. True then he wouldn't need a fridge. Kettle etc unless he was further out but then a bed might be handy. The place for wets on my boat is on the engine. It runs at 80 degrees and stays warm for hours when you pull in . Ideal. The idea of the cabin rib is cruising and exploring little places that are too far for smaller boats to achieve in a day. With respect and I don't mean this as a piss take or wind up. Most guys don't want to do this yet.
50/60 miles in a day is the average for most ribbers but that isn't what I built my boat for.
I want to go where ever I want and stop where I want. Not hop from one comfort zone to another

indaba1991 · 03 February 2014, 21:04

Before I get called a Southern Jessie again I suppose better fess up - I do have a small generator on board - and a Nespresso machine. Nothing like a quick shot of costa italian when you arrive. Before tucking in I tend to run the blower heater to warm up the cabin and the duvet. No shame in being warm and comfortable on a rib - soft or what?

biffer · 03 February 2014, 21:22

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Originally Posted by indaba1991

Before I get called a Southern Jessie again I suppose better fess up - I do have a small generator on board - and a Nespresso machine. Nothing like a quick shot of costa italian when you arrive. Before tucking in I tend to run the blower heater to warm up the cabin and the duvet. No shame in being warm and comfortable on a rib - soft or what?

I run a diesel in my rib. You can run hot pipes from the engine to the cabin. a heater system from a car. Range rover. Mini etc will work really well. You can of course run hot water from it as well through a heat exchanger

Poly · 03 February 2014, 21:28

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Originally Posted by Ian M

I think that what you are describing as a format is available in any number of hard boats. ... I am thinking well over 10m though.

No I'm not talking that size. What I was saying was to me the priority would be comfortable, warm, dry, wheelhouse not sleeping accommodation - because for me the priority would be to use the boat in wider weather not to sleep aboard. There ARE some hard boats which fall into that category. It depends what you mean by 'cabin' which was agreed earlier on to be any of the possibilities.

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Originally Posted by biffer

Poly said if he could afford a cabin rib he could afford a B&B. True then he wouldn't need a fridge. Kettle etc unless he was further out

for a man who likes a proper cuppa I would have thought you would appreciate a snack / lunch stop with a brew.

indaba1991 · 03 February 2014, 21:34

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Originally Posted by biffer

I run a diesel in my rib. You can run hot pipes from the engine to the cabin. a heater system from a car. Range rover. Mini etc will work really well. You can of course run hot water from it as well through a heat exchanger

Music to my ears Biffer - if you have got a cabin rib there is no sense in not having all the trimmings. Nothing like a hot shower after swimming etc

Nos4r2 · 03 February 2014, 21:43

I'm with Biff on this one- if you're not pitching a tent, might as well have mod cons.
The idea of staying in a B&B suggests that you're only ever going to go places where there's B&B's. That's really quite limiting.

sneland · 03 February 2014, 22:03

Having trouble posting the picture will try later.

biffer · 03 February 2014, 22:08

Did one or two similar to that when at ribtec about 16 years ago. I wonder where they are now

biffer · 03 February 2014, 22:20

Nothing will keep me from my cuppa. Have cooker. Toilet. Large bed. TV stereo CDAnd DVD. I can go exploring in comfort. Times that I remember are many. I spent a lovely few days inside wall barrow bay. Down the Jurassic Coast. Was on my way to Portland but tucked in there for a cuppa and stayed nearly 3 days. Done sone diving. Beach combing. Sun bathing. BBQ. Swimming. Never got to Portland

Daniel · 03 February 2014, 22:21

1997 ribtec 9000

Poly · 03 February 2014, 22:46

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Originally Posted by biffer

Nothing will keep me from my cuppa. Have cooker. Toilet. Large bed. TV stereo CDAnd DVD.

you have facilities Willk doesn't even have at home!

clloyd · 03 February 2014, 23:03

7m is tough for a decent cabin. 9m seems the sweet spot for a cabin rib.

AMF does have a 7m and it does have some interesting ideas. The outside of their cabins are actually over the tubes. Some 7m enclosers are more like standing in a closet, would not be my choice. Need width.

AMF

biffer · 04 February 2014, 05:34

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Originally Posted by Daniel

1997 ribtec 9000

Remember them well. When we did the plug for that cabin we couldn't get it out of the shed. We had to take it off the trolley and I towed it out with my nissan patrol

biffer · 04 February 2014, 06:59

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Originally Posted by clloyd

7m is tough for a decent cabin. 9m seems the sweet spot for a cabin rib. AMF does have a 7m and it does have some interesting ideas. The outside of their cabins are actually over the tubes. Some 7m enclosers are more like standing in a closet, would not be my choice. Need width. AMF

Same cabin moulding on 7.2 & 8.3 metre boat of different makes

willk · 04 February 2014, 10:20

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Originally Posted by biffer

Same cabin moulding on 7.2 & 8.3 metre boat of different makes

Biff, is the entire top of the cabin "walk on" or is there a sweet spot near the bow?

biffer · 04 February 2014, 12:28

No walk anywhere on it, it's a light layup with foam lattice work stiffening, when I was doing the yacht racing stuff there were two guys up there spotting the line and letting out or pulling in anchor lines for the start line, once the cabin is scribe to the tubes we layup over the tubes , put the cabin back on then bond the two together, makes it strong, you can run with the tube flat and you can't rip them off because you'll have to rip the cabin off as well

willk · 04 February 2014, 13:15

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Originally Posted by biffer

No walk anywhere on it, it's a light layup with foam lattice work stiffening, when I was doing the yacht racing stuff there were two guys up there spotting the line and letting out or pulling in anchor lines for the start line, once the cabin is scribe to the tubes we layup over the tubes , put the cabin back on then bond the two together, makes it strong, you can run with the tube flat and you can't rip them off because you'll have to rip the cabin off as well

I understand. There must be access to the bow for anchoring though - I guess you scuttle along the tube using the rail for a handhold? If that's the case, there must be a stiffer section at the bow to stand/kneel on?