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Old 05 October 2010, 05:25   #1
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The "running all winter" thread has got me thinking. Last time out in the usual goretex jacket & overtrousers we all got chilled. What with the Bass fishing trip coming up, I don't want to give the missus an excuse not to go, so I'm on the lookout for some decent foul weather gear. Seeing as our local TK Maxx's are sticking to the usual pink shell suits & pre ripped jeans, I ain't going to get the Mustos. So, I've been looking at the Fladen immersion suits, the Bogmeister recommends these highly & at £80 they seem to good to be true. Anybody got any other recommendations without having to sell a kidney? Also I'm leaning towards the 1 piece suit rather than the jacket & salopettes, thoughts?
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Why not just get a diving undersuit (Wooley bear) and keep the foulies more virsatile then . Add Undersuit for cold or just foulies for better weather
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Old 05 October 2010, 05:45   #3
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We've got various undersuits, it's more the outers that I was looking at, We've got the usual hiking waterproofs but when the water is coming in all directions (including uphill) it eventually gets through. I don't particularly want to wear my diving drysuit when we're fishing as,
a, it can get too warm &
b, I don't want a fishing hook in a £700 quid suit.
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I don't particularly want to wear my diving drysuit when we're fishing as,
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b, I don't want a fishing hook in a £700 quid suit.
Know anyone on a LB crew your way? There were quite a few ex service drysuits in the last clearance round....often need a bit of repair, but cheap
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The "running all winter" thread has got me thinking. Last time out in the usual goretex jacket & overtrousers we all got chilled. What with the Bass fishing trip coming up, I don't want to give the missus an excuse not to go, so I'm on the lookout for some decent foul weather gear. Seeing as our local TK Maxx's are sticking to the usual pink shell suits & pre ripped jeans, I ain't going to get the Mustos. So, I've been looking at the Fladen immersion suits, the Bogmeister recommends these highly & at £80 they seem to good to be true. Anybody got any other recommendations without having to sell a kidney? Also I'm leaning towards the 1 piece suit rather than the jacket & salopettes, thoughts?
Flotation suit gets my vote unless you are planning to go in the water or get waste deep when launching. Only problem may be its too warm in October! I have a one piece (not a Fladden, but I've worn a fladden before and nothing wrong with them). I don't regret my one piece decision but if Mrs P was getting one i'd go 2 piece as she's harder to keep happy (with temp, toilet stops etc...). The only downside could be the the 275 v's 150N lifejacket question when wearing one.
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Mrs P was getting one i'd go 2 piece as she's harder to keep happy (with temp, toilet stops etc...).
Mrs P needs a toilet stop
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Or a fish box.

Lucky it wasn't Mrs S then
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re: foulies

Do not use ordinary Goretex suits (mountain climbing clothing) on their own, as the salt destroys the pores of the Goretex. You can buy specially treated goretex from companies like Henri Lloyd or the Musto HPX but these are meant for offshore sailors and RNLI crews and they cost between £350-£450.

The XM range is not bad for its price, and don't knock this suggestion but Lidl do a decent range - depends on if it is still a manager's special, I know of a crew on a classic gaff ketch where the skipper has a Henri Lloyd suit and his crew has a Lidl suit and there is no difference in the quality of the material and its finishing and its performance, only the price is the massive difference.

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salt destroys the pores of the Goretex.
I may be wrong ( but i dont think so)
Pores are just holes in the fabric, many many times smaller then a water droplet, so water vapour can pass through, not water drops though.

To that end you cant destroy a hole, you can block it or make it bigger. Salt will block the pores, as will sweat, dirt, or many other things. you need to wash goretex regularly to maintain performance.
In addition a new goretex jacket will come with the outer fabric having a water replant coating to allow the water to "bead" off, over time this gets washed off to the outer nylon/cordura fabric starts to hold water, making it look like the garment is no longer waterproof. The gortex layer is unaffected by this and the garment reamins waterproof.
You should wash it in a re repellent solution periodically to allow the beading to re occur this stops the outer soaking up water.

I don't believe WL Gore use different bonding agents to stick the goretex to the nylon (i could be wrong), however to my knowledge the actual goretex fabric remain waterproof even if it de laminates from the nylon.

There is an old wives tail about marine goretex and non marine goretex.
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Floatation suits get my vote too but I would go for one that is breathable as otherwise you tend to sit in your own portable sauna after a while. I notice that Imax have brought out a new two piece breathable suit but I've not tracked down anyone that has tried one yet to get an opinion. Anyone here got/heard anything on it?
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Floatation suits get my vote too but I would go for one that is breathable as otherwise you tend to sit in your own portable sauna after a while. I notice that Imax have brought out a new two piece breathable suit but I've not tracked down anyone that has tried one yet to get an opinion. Anyone here got/heard anything on it?
wouldnt touch any IMAX products. I bought the missus a 2 piece floatation suit and it lasted about a month. very poor quality stitching throughout.
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Why don't you just buy a pair of yellow oilers? A jacket and salopette combo will cost you less than £100. Fisherman wear oilers; they don't wear posh sailing jackets. The reason? Oilers are 100% water and wind proof; Goretex gear looks good but after a while it'll just let you down.
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So, I've been looking at the Fladen immersion suits, the Bogmeister recommends these highly & at £80 they seem to good to be true........Also I'm leaning towards the 1 piece suit rather than the jacket & salopettes, thoughts?
I've used a Fladen one piece suit for three years, in all weathers. The suit has stood up to the rigours of ribbing very well. The zip has done well, unlike the Lidl gear's zips which fell apart very quickly.

My one negative is that they are not completely waterproof, i.e. continuous soaking will eventually make it to the inner clothing. In fairness, for £69, I can't expect any more and they certainly are showerproof and very warm.
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I wore a one-piece Mullion suit in Antarctica and it performed very well. It's more comfortable to wear than the drysuit, but the drysuit still gets my vote if the waves are trying to join me in the boat or the rain is trying too hard to go down my neck

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Has anybody used or have knowledge of this company http://www.sundridge.co.uk/categorie...loatation.html
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Tested my new Fladen one piece suite today on the SR. First time ever had too warm clothing in a open boat. The weather was very warm for this time of the year tough, guess +7, water is already colder.

The suit is light and quality seams OK for price. Biggest difference compared to other cheap ones is that this is also a rescue suit(although lowest class but still). So far seams like a good buy, time will tell the quality. Cheers
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Keep watching eBay for ex-mod surface immersion suits. They are the yellow/back Typhoon breathable ones. Thats a £500 drysit for about £100 if you are unlucky on postage. Team that up with a divers all in one undersuit; oceanic ugi, weasel extreme or or other. For your feet; Typhoon rockboots or similar.

The only challenging decisions to be made now are;
1 Hat: Gecko/Gaf or some such fleece orientated abomination
2 Hip flask contents; Rum, Rum or err Rum?
3 Hot flask contents Morrisons ThiaChick Soup ot Ox Tail.

If you fancy a floatation suit fladen seem to do some ok ones.
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