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Old 14 March 2002, 10:37   #21
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If you are still looking for Camel Trophy Lifejackets to complete your kit let me know - Im sure I could be persuaded to do you a good deal on our 2.

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Old 14 March 2002, 13:06   #22
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Oh yes, what kind of money are we talking????
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Old 14 March 2002, 13:12   #23
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Old 14 March 2002, 14:25   #24
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Old 14 March 2002, 16:01   #25
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You ain't got the dry bag though!!!

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Old 14 March 2002, 16:16   #26
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Dont I know it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I aint got a Landy Either, but i'm working on that one !
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I have a Lightweight ex Royal Marines Series III Landrover - we could paint that up to look like a Camel Trophy job ...........
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Old 14 March 2002, 17:32   #29
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Well my 90 has got some of the toys but not quiet the right colour! It's still my baby though, just like the rib. Ahhh how sweet! Afraid I will be in my "tarts" car (Freelander) for the SOC.
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I have the Series III Lightweight - which is great fun to drive and I wouldnt swap her for anything.

I have also had, over the years, the following Land Rover Vehicles:

Series I
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As such I think I can say that the Freelander is as much a Landy as any of the others. She will cruise at whatever speed you choose - nicely on cruise control - just like a Range Rover or high Spec Disco - She will tow my 6.2 Metre RIB with ease up and down the motorway - yet she will also drag herself across Black Rock Sands, Off Road Tracks and up and down the steepest slipways - no mater how wet with seaweed etc - when many of the othe '4 x 4s' (excuse my language) have given up the ghost - just like a Series 3 or Defender (though obviously with SOME limitations)

In addition to this she will give your BMW 320 a serious run for her money away from the lights in 'Sports' mode.

My point is - hardly a 'tarts' car me thinks.

Landrover - the Best 4 x 4 BY FAR !!!
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Hi Graeme,
You are preaching to the converted I'm afraid. I was just quoting the often heard opinion on Freelanders and what my friends call mine! Should have used more smileys!! Don't forget they were used on the last Camel trophy!
As you are in a "virtual" Rib Club, take a look at anoraks . They have a pretty good mailing list. Follow the link on the page. Also take a look at the Tixover December 2001 album. Mine is the first one one the first pic. Ignore the flat tyre!!!
Must talk Landys over a few beers in Cardiff!
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Old 14 March 2002, 18:17   #32
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Nice Web Site.

Which model Freelander do you drive? Jools has a great V6 with an LPG conversion.

Will look forward to chatting 'Landys' in Cardiff - if we get a chance between all the RIB chat!
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1967 LWB S2, never got it on the road but annoyed the neighbours (it was an ex-breakdown recovery truck and painted BRIGHT orange!) and then 1972 S3 SWB. Great fun while it lasted.

A number of years later by a quirk of fate ended up working at LR for 18 months after Ford bought 'em. Two Disco company cars best of the bunch being a Td5 XS, would've bought it when I left but they wanted too much dosh for it.

The addage that people buy LR's despite the build quality rather than because it is sadly true however things ARE improving. (The died in the wool landy fans who make rude comments about Ford don't know what they are talking about as Ford quality is streets ahead of where LR were and Ford is pretty mediocre! Now theres a contraversial statement for you )

Wanted a Defender tomb raider but put my sensible head on (doing 20k+ miles p.a.) and bought a Trooper instead. Not a Landie but bloody well built, very capable and with a fantastic diesel engine!

Enough on cars, back to RIBs!
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Old 15 March 2002, 04:35   #34
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As far as Landrovers go - I agree that some 'died in the wool' Landy owners buy them irrespective of the probems.

However, when I researched my new vehicle and decided on the Freelander 2.5 V6 in preferece to a TDI GS Disco I actually looked at some of the 'faults' on the supposed massive list on new Freelanders.

These included such tivial items as Ash Trays that didn't open properly, a 'squeaky' electric window, and such things. Whilst this may be a 'nuisance' - it hardly detracts from the function of the car.

An 'acquaintance' who owns a local marine related business complained to me the other day about his 'S' Reg Freelander being a problem, and always in and out of the Garage. This 1.8 petrol model has done 165,000 miles - and I have seen what he expects it to carry and tow! Sometimes perhaps even Landrovers have some limitations!

As regards to 'back to RIBs' - towing vehicles are important too - you only have to watch Portsmouth Slip on any given summer Saturday or Sunday Morning to see the weekend Admirals trying to launch a variety of craft with their soft top BMWs at low tide on a weed covered slip - what price ANY Landrover then !!!

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were probably the best built LR's in recent times until the launch of the new Range Rover. The investment in building the low volumes of 30k p.a. has to be seen to be believed!

The sort of "squeak and rattle" problems you mention are actually those that cause more aggravation to owners and thus more noise in customer feedback. Odd but true!

The Disco is a great car in terms of ride & handling, (The active suspension), but the ergonomics are truly appalling - showing its age basically. I loved mine but hated parts of it in equal measure. The Trooper doesn't provoke such powerful emotions but does leave you impressed with it being a "decent bit of kit!"

Slipway antics - you should see Bradwell Marina Slip on a summer weekend. Home of the Essex Navy (Waterskiers mainly). People launching without bungs, manhandling trailers down the slip, trying to do maintenance on the slip whilst a queue of irate trailboaters look on, burning out the clutches on their Escort Xr3i's etc etc. Happy days!
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I can picture it now.

I actually had to help a chap launch his shiny looking RIB last year from Pompey Slip as he didnt want to get his leather brogue shoes wet! He also wasnt too keen getting his rear wheels wet on his 3 series convertable BMW! - A slight step up from the XR3i -(OR IS IT?)

How do these people cope out on the water?
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You guys are becoming like RIB International, talking about cars in a RIB forum/environment!
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Old 15 March 2002, 12:18   #38
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Im sure living in the Channel Islands Towing your RIB to a suitable destination isn't an issue - however on the mainland it is an important factor - especially bearing in mind the poor state some of the slipways have been allowed to fall in to.

I notice you list your main boat as a Fairline Targa 34 ft - err - what sort of RIB is that?
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Back to the main theme of this thread (well - almost)

I have today taken delivery of my Ravenspring Drysuit - which looks very good - complete with 'comfort zip' for those long trips

Just trying to talk Sian into having one now.

Thanks for the earlier tip re the Automatic Lifejckets - I have ordered them for the kids.
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Graeme,
I was having a dig more at RIB Int than you guys, I'm sure JK would approve!
The thread ..... try using a pair of surfing booties over your dry suit on your feet, much better than trainers etc.
A friend of mine's wife decided that their auto-inflation life-jackets were getting a tad dirty and promptly chucked them in the bath to wash ...... DOH!
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