Did the RNLI use 8.8m Barbarian?

lump1066 · 28 May 2013, 15:12

Found this ad on boatsandoutboards - did the RNLI really use these? Looks like a nice RIB, but never heard of it before - 'Island Plastics' 8.8m Barbarian RIB?

ISLAND PLASTICS Commercial Ribs for sale , Ex rnli offshore rescue rib 8.8m twin 2009 hondas - Boats And Outboards

Nos4r2 · 28 May 2013, 15:25

Only by default when they took over another independant I think?

gibberfish · 28 May 2013, 22:01

As far as I am aware, the RNLI has designed and built all its sea going RIBs. In the last few decades these have been the Atlantic 21, Atlantic 75 and Atlantic 85.
This boat may have been owned by the RNLI but it won't have been in service as an Inshore Life Boat. Crews are trained on Atlantics so that if a boat is put out of service an identical relief boat can be brought to station.
There never were any offshore RIBs that I know of, I smell a rat!

Tim M · 28 May 2013, 22:18

Nos is sort of right. When the RNLI took over Cowes ILB this was knocking around for a bit before it found it's way to Venturers and lived at Calshot for a while. Venturers seem to have had all sorts of problems over the last year or so, and it now seems it's for sale in Plymouth (assuming it's the same one - it certinaly looks like it and the former Cowes one did have a change of engines which ties up with the info in that ad.) I was under the impression that as soon as the RNLI took over Cowes an Atlantic 85 took over, so I'm not sure it was ever crewed by an RNLI crew although I may be wrong. If it was, it was only for a brief time.

Nos4r2 · 29 May 2013, 00:12

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Nos is sort of right. When the RNLI took over Cowes ILB this was knocking around for a bit before it found it's way to Venturers and lived at Calshot for a while. Venturers seem to have had all sorts of problems over the last year or so, and it now seems it's for sale in Plymouth (assuming it's the same one - it certinaly looks like it and the former Cowes one did have a change of engines which ties up with the info in that ad.) I was under the impression that as soon as the RNLI took over Cowes an Atlantic 85 took over, so I'm not sure it was ever crewed by an RNLI crew although I may be wrong. If it was, it was only for a brief time.

Thought so, but didn't remember enough to say for definite.
IF it's that one, I seem to remember it being for sale for about £10k less last time too...

Seen it a few times , cracking looking boat.

Tim M · 29 May 2013, 00:14

Likewise!

gibberfish · 29 May 2013, 07:30

It may have been owned by the RNLI but I'm sure it was never a RNLI lifeboat.
I've been on ILBs for over 12 years and never heard of any other ribs than the Atlantics being in service on the sea. Interchangeability of spares and training is key to keeping stations on service so a Rib like this would cause real problems on many levels.

John Kennett · 29 May 2013, 13:55

Looks like the ex-Cowes ILB to me too. Don't forget that for most people "lifeboat" and "RNLI" are synonymous, so I wouldn't immediately suspect skulduggery!

Lee argyle · 29 May 2013, 16:28

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Originally Posted by John Kennett

Looks like the ex-Cowes ILB to me too. Don't forget that for most people "lifeboat" and "RNLI" are synonymous, so I wouldn't immediately suspect skulduggery!

It was, spent many an hour sat in her on shouts and patrols .
Numerous independent lifeboats in and around the Solent, RNLI took over cowes a few years ago hence the island-plastics rib was replaced with a RNLI spec rib. Was running twin 225's. not a bad rig, but as suggested previously it seems to be appreciating in value!

RAZZER · 01 June 2013, 18:42

I think it was the ex Cowes independent lifeboat.
The vendors tend to like embellishing crafts history on the ads.

gibberfish · 01 June 2013, 18:58

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Originally Posted by RAZZER

I think it was the ex Cowes independent lifeboat.
The vendors tend to like embellishing crafts history on the ads.

I think you're correct. I'm sure it's not an RNLI lifeboat.

Lee argyle · 01 June 2013, 20:31

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Originally Posted by gibberfish

I think you're correct. I'm sure it's not an RNLI lifeboat.

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Originally Posted by John Kennett
Looks like the ex-Cowes ILB to me too. Don't forget that for most people "lifeboat" and "RNLI" are synonymous, so I wouldn't immediately suspect skulduggery!

It was, spent many an hour sat in her on shouts and patrols .
Numerous independent lifeboats in and around the Solent, RNLI took over cowes a few years ago hence the island-plastics rib was replaced with a RNLI spec rib. Was running twin 225's. not a bad rig, but as suggested previously it seems to be appreciating in value!

Was this post invisible ?? Lol

Nos4r2 · 01 June 2013, 21:14

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Originally Posted by Lee argyle

Was this post invisible ?? Lol

Sometimes I do wonder!

SPR · 01 June 2013, 21:16

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Originally Posted by Lee argyle

Did you say something ?

gibberfish · 02 June 2013, 07:56

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Originally Posted by Lee argyle

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Originally Posted by John Kennett
Looks like the ex-Cowes ILB to me too. Don't forget that for most people "lifeboat" and "RNLI" are synonymous, so I wouldn't immediately suspect skulduggery!

It was, spent many an hour sat in her on shouts and patrols .
Numerous independent lifeboats in and around the Solent, RNLI took over cowes a few years ago hence the island-plastics rib was replaced with a RNLI spec rib. Was running twin 225's. not a bad rig, but as suggested previously it seems to be appreciating in value!

Was this post invisible ?? Lol

No, your post wasn't invisible, hence the reason why I was/am sure it's not an ex RNLI boat. Although, in my defence, the phrase "looks like" is a little less definite than "is" and therefore leaves room for debate!

DGR · 03 June 2013, 15:13

FYI - the RNLI do have some other boats that they use as well, both for training and development - so if they sold one of those (which they occasionally do), it wouldn't necessarily fit into one of the 'standard' expected class of boat.

They've got a jet-rib in Poole that's been used for various jet related trials for the FCB2/Shannon over the past few years, some Hardy's for ALB crew training, amongst other things.

gibberfish · 03 June 2013, 16:27

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Originally Posted by DGR

FYI - the RNLI do have some other boats that they use as well, both for training and development - so if they sold one of those (which they occasionally do), it wouldn't necessarily fit into one of the 'standard' expected class of boat.

They've got a jet-rib in Poole that's been used for various jet related trials for the FCB2/Shannon over the past few years, some Hardy's for ALB crew training, amongst other things.

Quite so, but they are not "lifeboats" .

DGR · 04 June 2013, 12:57

True enough, but as someone said earlier, the use of "RNLI" and "Lifeboats" are synonymous...

Other organisations also use Atlantic 75s and 85s, and the development Tamar Lifeboat is now a Police boat on the Thames...... just trying to point out that it's not always black and white...!!

treerat · 04 June 2013, 21:19

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Originally Posted by DGR

just trying to point out that it's not always black and white...!!

Usually just orange and grey

mara · 04 June 2013, 21:51

The rib was built to the then RNLI spec by Island Plastics for Cowes ILB,never used by the RNLI...IMPRESSIVE BOAT! I have been coxswain on her for the Venturers couple of seasons ago,she did some good services,not best boat in shallow water ,I prefer jets for that type of work personally!