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Old 25 November 2020, 16:20   #1
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Craning out of rib

Good evening all,

Looking through old posts I can see this topic has been discussed before but I canít find a definitive answer so Iím hoping those with experience on here can help.

I was planning on leaving my rib on my mud mooring over winter, but sheís getting a bit battered by the weather and covered in mud so Iíve decided to take her out.

I have a place on hard standing on my drive but itís behind a fence so I need to get her craned over the fence for the winter and again back out in the summer. The trailer I use is a shared one so she canít stay in the trailer.

The local company Iíve got to do the lift has a 2.5m spreader bar which will help with the load but what other things apart from pinching the tubes do I need to look out for?

Do I keep the tubes fully inflated, partially inflated or dead flat.

Thanks in advance

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Old 25 November 2020, 16:39   #2
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Good evening all,



Looking through old posts I can see this topic has been discussed before but I canít find a definitive answer so Iím hoping those with experience on here can help.



I was planning on leaving my rib on my mud mooring over winter, but sheís getting a bit battered by the weather and covered in mud so Iíve decided to take her out.



I have a place on hard standing on my drive but itís behind a fence so I need to get her craned over the fence for the winter and again back out in the summer. The trailer I use is a shared one so she canít stay in the trailer.



The local company Iíve got to do the lift has a 2.5m spreader bar which will help with the load but what other things apart from pinching the tubes do I need to look out for?



Do I keep the tubes fully inflated, partially inflated or dead flat.



Thanks in advance



Craig


Iíve craned BP a couple of times, twitchy bum time🥴. In the absence of deck lifting points, you need a couple of fabric slings, the longer the slings the less the ďpinchĒ a couple of 2.5m spreaders should work. You might want to tie the 2 slings together along the keel to stop the front sling from slipping up the bow. I left the tubes inflated, this looks painful, but keeps the pressure of the tube mounting flange. Old carpet is handy for padding between the slings & for landing the hull on to. Thereís a video somewhere on here of ďThe flying PigĒ
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Brilliant thanks. I take it the further out I can get the spreader the better?

Weíre your tubes fully inflated?
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Brilliant thanks. I take it the further out I can get the spreader the better?



Weíre your tubes fully inflated?


Yup, tubes fully inflated, but they will squeeze in & look painful, but they spring back & protect the GRP flange.
Hereíre a couple of videos showing her being lifted in & out. Note the 2 different methods of slinging. One is using a spreader frame, the other uses the bow & transom eyes. I preferred the spreader frame, but you run the risk of the front sling slipping.

https://youtu.be/Xd9gXAabH9Y

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Hi Chanchan

I hate to sound stupid, but, it's just the way I am.

Hiring a crane every time you want to get your boat in and out?

Here in my little corner of the world would not be cheap and to continue doing this seems uneconomical.

Although it may be cheaper in the short term, surely in the long term it would be more economical to buy a dismountable gantry crane or modify the fence or something.

If I was really stupid I would suggest filling the tubes with Helium and float it over, but I'm not that mad.

Maybe a photo of what you have may encourage more suggestions from the knowledgeable members of this forum.

Of which I am not one, but I just hang in here, I might make sense one day.
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Can you not retrieve it on the trailer then dry launch it off the trailer to where it will be stored?
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i think craning will be expensive especially contract lift unless you have a mate and get good rates.
why not get a dolly made then all you do is push on and off
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Long term it would be cheaper and safer to get the fence made into double gates so nothing to crane over. Deliver the boat on the shared trailer to the hard standing behind the "gated fence" and dry launch. Return trailer until ready for sea again.
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Long term it would be cheaper and safer to get the fence made into double gates so nothing to crane over. Deliver the boat on the shared trailer to the hard standing behind the "gated fence" and dry launch. Return trailer until ready for sea again.


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Hi all,

Thanks for the comments. The driveway is “T” shaped with the fence going across the where the vertical part goes into the horizontal part.

This means I can’t dry launch as the boat needs to be sideways on across the top of the t. I’m surrounded by fences, so craning is the only way. Thanks though
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Hi all,

Thanks for the comments. The driveway is ďTĒ shaped with the fence going across the where the vertical part goes into the horizontal part.

This means I canít dry launch as the boat needs to be sideways on across the top of the t. Iím surrounded by fences, so craning is the only way. Thanks though


Is the drive smooth level & hard? I think Jeff suggested a dolly. You could transfer the boat from the shared trailer onto the dolly & manoeuvre into position. The dolly would cost less than the crane lift. Unless you can get ďmates ratesĒ on a crane, youíre looking at minimum £500-£600 a day for a crane. More if itís a contract lift.
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At that cost twice a year you could pay for inside storage or yard store couldnt you, even the back corner of a farmers barn.
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Is the drive smooth level & hard? I think Jeff suggested a dolly. You could transfer the boat from the shared trailer onto the dolly & manoeuvre into position. The dolly would cost less than the crane lift. Unless you can get “mates rates” on a crane, you’re looking at minimum £500-£600 a day for a crane. More if it’s a contract lift.
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I agree, dolly and have removable fence posts and panels

I made a removable gate post using square upvc drainpipe set in the floor. When I want full width access I just pull the post out, bottom of wooden post is waterproofed liberally with creosote
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Unless you can get ďmates ratesĒ on a crane, youíre looking at minimum £500-£600 a day for a crane. More if itís a contract lift.
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Can get an annual local barn stored space around here for that!!

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i had mine on a farm caravan storage £200/ year
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Is the drive smooth level & hard? I think Jeff suggested a dolly. You could transfer the boat from the shared trailer onto the dolly & manoeuvre into position. The dolly would cost less than the crane lift. Unless you can get “mates rates” on a crane, you’re looking at minimum £500-£600 a day for a crane. More if it’s a contract lift.
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Wow that’s steep crane prices. In Jersey I’m paying just over £100 per lift and it’s only twice a year. My summer mooring is £100 per year so even at £300 for the year that’s still cheaper than my mud mooring to cover the year, so it’s actually quite cost effective.

The issue was only ever the tube damage but I do appreciate to comments about a dolly. Makes sense and would save on lifting costs and potential damage.
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i had mine on a farm caravan storage £200/ year
Wow thatís good. Even field storage at a lock up area is over £1000 a year and some harbour storage just for winter months is nearly £1500
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