Could this happen to a RIB hull!!!

Christopher · 28 January 2009, 12:19

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showflat.p...0/fpart/1/vc/1

Cookee · 28 January 2009, 12:24

Any glass fibre construction boat including a Rib can fail like this.

........... Except one of ours!!!!!!!!!!!

paul tilley · 28 January 2009, 12:28

vector marine had it happen with a couple of their early balsa cored xr24 hulls

chewy · 28 January 2009, 12:31

Thats a poorly boat.

PeterM · 28 January 2009, 12:46

Like the other thread says looks like the gel has come away from the lay up , or the layers were never bonded properly . Does this happen when you dont get the whole thing done quick enough , or the resin mix is wrong ?

Isn't this boat made with a balsa core/ sandwich type hull ? , but most ( all) RIB hulls are solid ( ie no core) - the stringers & runners may be cored but not the actual hull ?

Makers do please tell ...................

Cookee · 28 January 2009, 13:02

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Originally Posted by Blackroady

Like the other thread says looks like the gel has come away from the lay up , or the layers were never bonded properly . Does this happen when you dont get the whole thing done quick enough , or the resin mix is wrong ?

Isn't this boat made with a balsa core/ sandwich type hull ? , but most ( all) RIB hulls are solid ( ie no core) - the stringers & runners may be cored but not the actual hull ?

Makers do please tell ...................

We use balsa and foam in certain areas of a hull - the blame seems to be blamed on vacuum bagging, and delays in laying up the layers. Using more sticky resins and keeping the time between layers to a minimum will help prevent this.

At BananaShark we tend to use the resins that stay sticky for a long time as we produce more race boats than anything else, and they often need collision damage repairing and these resins allow a chemical bond months or even years later.

We use foam longits in our leisure and race boats as well as wood, and they could suffer from the same fate internally if not bonded properly as can "matrix" type stiffening used in some boats sold in the UK, and some of that is stuck in with Sikaflex type goo!

If any of our boats has a failure such as this you would get a new hull inside 5 years - although this doesn't apply to race boats, we would still come to an arrangement!

biffer · 28 January 2009, 14:05

its delamination, although it looks bad it isn't that bad, the boats still underway, expensive bill though

TangoTango · 29 January 2009, 19:37

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Originally Posted by Cookee

If any of our boats has a failure such as this you would get a new hull inside 5 years - although this doesn't apply to race boats, we would still come to an arrangement!

My first reading of this was that it would only take you 5 years to come up with a replacement!

doggypaddle · 29 January 2009, 20:07

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Originally Posted by biffer

its delamination, although it looks bad it isn't that bad, the boats still underway, expensive bill though

i wouldnt want it after it was repaired. IMHO its completley buggered.

biffer · 30 January 2009, 08:11

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Originally Posted by doggypaddle

i wouldnt want it after it was repaired. IMHO its completley buggered.

good repairer could do it, i had an old avon 725 that had delaminated completely down one side, we repaired it about 8 years ago and it's still going strong, but you're right you wouldn't want it back if it was yours or even another one by the same company even

doggypaddle · 30 January 2009, 08:18

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Originally Posted by biffer

good repairer could do it, i had an old avon 725 that had delaminated completely down one side, we repaired it about 8 years ago and it's still going strong, but you're right you wouldn't want it back if it was yours or even another one by the same company even

and how long before the otherside goes the same way

I think if it were mine it may have sunk once it was back at its berth, just to make sure like

biffer · 30 January 2009, 08:23

i had the old boat for a good few years after i repaired it and if anyone can break a rib its me!!!!

Nos4r2 · 30 January 2009, 08:35

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Originally Posted by doggypaddle

and how long before the otherside goes the same way

I think if it were mine it may have sunk once it was back at its berth, just to make sure like

So Mr Doggypaddle, were the tubes missing before or after the recovery?

I wouldn't have wanted it back either!

doggypaddle · 30 January 2009, 09:37

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

So Mr Doggypaddle, were the tubes missing before or after the recovery?

Well Mr Nos4r2 i did buy them from Gemini, perhaps they floated away Errrr on their own like....

Cookee · 02 February 2009, 10:30

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Originally Posted by TangoTango

My first reading of this was that it would only take you 5 years to come up with a replacement!

Perfection takes a while!