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Old 24 October 2012, 23:37   #1
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Anybody know anything about RIBS manufactured by Qingdao Lian Ya Boat Co.,Ltd, I am thinking of buying a HYP660 from them, price is great, but a bit worried about quality issues.
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Old 25 October 2012, 04:39   #2
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Hi Alan, welcome to Ribnet. Do a quick search of the forum for threads about chinese ribs, they've been discussed at length & quite recently. The general consenus is that there's not a lot good about them, apart from the price. It's about the only thing that we all agree on
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Old 25 October 2012, 06:07   #3
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Looked them up this morning on a German site but the prices were not that low and interesting. So I certainly would prefer to save a little more and buy new British or buy used British now.
I am Dutch but love British ribs.

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You can't compare Asian ribs againsta UK ribs, 2 complete different animals, each one in it's own segment.

Asian ribs are light, less deep V hull for less rough waters, needs less HP engines and costs musch less. Reputed builders have International Certification.

UK ribs are heavy, deep V hulls, for rough waters, needs more HP engines and costs mama mia prices. Must agree that UK builders are the masters of rib building.

If you don't like or will ever be doing extreme ribbing and on a tight budget, Asian sibs will perform nicely. Are very affordable and can be imported factory straight and drown the middleman.

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Hi Alan,

Brand Name: MAGNUS Ribs / also found as same boat but unbranded HYPxxx
China Manufacturer: Qingdao Lian Ya Boat Co., Ltd

I was looking at their HYP620A or possibly a variant of it. It had everything even the battery box and battery, cables, steering, shower, fresh water tank etc and this particular person was selling it for £7600 incl trailer. The boat has a very low freeboard and the finishing left an awful lot to be desired. Tubes were PVC
. Radar arch was a very thin plastic and rather oversized, the anchor light looked like it should be

I've got some pictures of the boat I saw if you're interested, they were taken from my mobile but are pretty good to get a general idea. It seems that a distributor in Germany called Magnus but the boats are made by Qingdao, Home - Magnus Ribs and in Malta they are sold by Home - PTR - Marine just in case you want some pics. The overall finish/spec level seems to be decided by the importer.

Also came across Aqualand RIBs, made by Qingdao Sea-Land Industries Co.,Ltd
www.aqualandboats.com but haven't gone to view the boat yet, it's a 580C if I'm not mistaken. These are very similar but look a bit cheaper in terms of finish.

The best of the crop so far has been Deltabay boats and they are leagues above the above two manufacturers in terms of finish. Their factory is just outside of Hong Kong but on the Chinese mainland.
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I would agree that maybe the build quality is not so good but can everyone cast there minds back to when the japanese started makeing vehicles , OH how crap were they??? and how rubbish were there products!!!!fast forward, and transit lay 500 people off mmmmm wounder why in fact what do we make in this country of ours today I am very proud of our country and the products we do produce, but I'M afraid it is only a matter of time before the chinese are competing,,,, captain manaring there comeing lol
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"Mama mia prices" I love it!
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[QUOTE="slate1234"]I would agree that maybe the build quality is not so good but can everyone cast there minds back to when the japanese started makeing vehicles , OH how crap were they??? and how rubbish were there products!!!!
Things haven't changed that much they are good at building engines but that's about it.
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they are good at building engines but that's about it.
Not forgetting the bodywork they put them in unlike them LR's
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Looked them up this morning on a German site but the prices were not that low and interesting. So I certainly would prefer to save a little more and buy new British or buy used British now.
I am Dutch but love British ribs.

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Body work on these Dongfengs Steve is as good as Kleenex you slam the door and the roof pops up.

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Body work on these Dongfengs Steve is as good as Kleenex you slam the door and the roof pops up.

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And Kleenex is the strongest for the jobs it does! Nutthin wrong with my Mitzy nor the Landcruisers - build quality A! and as for the extras ... well ....
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XPRO Defenders and 3-D Tenders are sold by SeaSwift near Sidmouth. They are chinese imports and are offered with warranty etc., I've been to see them and they appear to be able to stand up to a fair amount. They do aluminium hull versions too, lighter but louder. (why is aluminium highlighted as a spelling mistake? Aluminum isn't)
The website shows a fair amount of detail........google XPRO
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XPRO Defenders and 3-D Tenders are sold by SeaSwift near Sidmouth. They are chinese imports and are offered with warranty etc., I've been to see them and they appear to be able to stand up to a fair amount. They do aluminium hull versions too, lighter but louder. (why is aluminium highlighted as a spelling mistake? Aluminum isn't)
The website shows a fair amount of detail........google XPRO
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Sorry but can't help but drop in on this thread. As a UK manufacturer, I have had first hand experience of my own "loyal" clients being swayed by the cheap offerings of the Chinese and the result has been a very expensive mistake in the long run for them. Perhaps the most insulting/reassuring outcome is when they bring their Chinese built item to us to make good and perhaps more importantly MAKE SAFE prior to installation. Believe me, in my experience, the Chinese (from what I have seen) do not care one iota about a)quality b)safety c) customer satisfaction.

In conclusion: Buy British or reputable European.

There endeth the lesson!!
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I just purchased a Seamax boat and am quite impressed with the quality of the boat and the reviews. I bought the Ocean 380 w/Allum floor and found the quality from floor to bags containing the floor and boat exceptional! The tubes are larger than most 12.5 foot comparable boats (17") and the five year warranty was the clincher. It's (Seamax) the only inflatable boat holding Department Of Fisheries ID plates in Canada.
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I've spent a fair amount of time over the last two years in boats made by LingBo - a copy of a VSR and what looks like a Tornado.

The Tornado copy was pretty good, I don't like the VSR but they do seem fairly well made and when you look at the prices of them, good value - will they last in the UK climate? Who knows but they seem to be holding up fairly well at the sailing center.

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I think we all agree to a degree, it's all about money I can understand here in the uk wages and cost of liveing are more, I haven't got the answer, I would love to buy a branded rib/sib but the price is a big factor, even if things are mass produced in this country after the tax, vat, health and safty, rates, insurance, and all the rest of the bloody red tape how the hell can we compete, maybe if there are any MP'S reading you could say a few words, the only thing we dont pay is fun tax (I hope I haven't given them any ideas)
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