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Old 16 November 2013, 08:41   #1
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Can You smell burning?

Hi,

For anyone who's interested, this is what's left of the 80 foot motor yacht that caught fire in East Cowes recntly.

It's now on the barge in Camber Dock Old Portsmouth awaiting inspection by the insurers.

I'm no expert, but I'm not sure that will polish out??
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Old 16 November 2013, 08:48   #2
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The should get the Macmillan boys round they'll have that fixed up in no time
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Old 16 November 2013, 10:25   #3
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I'm no expert, but I'm not sure that will polish out??
I'm sure bits of it would polish up quite nicely, trouble is the other bits.

Landfill I expect
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such a shame

Nordhavn Nordhavn 76 - Used Motor Boats for Sale - Ancasta

anyone know how it started?
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No need to bother selling her now, or paying brokers fees

Such a shame, we always admired her each time we visited East Cowes

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None of this lot on the extensive spec listed on the brokerage add did any good unfortunately..

FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEM
- -Engine Room:
- -One Seafire FM-1500-M
- -One Seafire Automatic engine shutdown system for main engine, generators, engine room blowers, fire/smoke dampers
- -One Seafire Manual Discharge Cable 30ft
- -Lazarette:
- -One Seafire Model FM-1100-A
- -One Seafire Deluxe Discharge Alarm
- -Forward Bilge:
- -One Seafire FM-300-A
- -Forward Bilge # 2:
- -One Seafire FM-300-A
- -Seafire Deluxe Discharge Alarm
- -Portable Fire Extinguishers:
- -Pilot House, Fly Bridge, Galley, Salon, and Master Stateroom
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- -Izerwaren fire fighting system located on the foredeck and in the aft cockpit locker
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Fire appeared to start in the wheelhouse with no-one aboard.
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Having worked on many superyachts in build I can tell you the fire extinguishing systems onboard are pretty useless.
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Most will sacrifice the boat rather than trying to fight a fire.

The only system I'd have any faith in onboard is a good compartment misting system or engine room halon drench. This is what we used on the nuclear submarines I worked on anyway.

New boats can't have halon fitted to them anymore though. But a lot of the older ones still have it fitted.
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Having worked on many superyachts in build I can tell you the fire extinguishing systems onboard are pretty useless.
I guess cos once the excitement of the purchase is over and they gotta pay for it. The mind swings towards.. how the duck am i gonna get rid of it!!
Let it burn and claim
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'New boats can't have halon fitted to them anymore though. But a lot of the older ones still have it fitted.'

Well they shouldn't , it's been illegal to have on board for almost 10 years.......
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I guess cos once the excitement of the purchase is over and they gotta pay for it. The mind swings towards.. how the duck am i gonna get rid of it!!
Let it burn and claim
Lol, I remember about 14 years ago while I was based in Guernsey a fire breaking out aboard a large luxury motorcruiser only about 600 yards off the northern coast of the island.

The owner had abandoned ship and made for land in the inflatable tender and was safely ashore when someone on a jetski whizzed up its bow and connected a tow line. in an effort to try and salvage the boat, the jetski then proceeded to tow the cruiser into a nearby beach where the fire department were waiting to extinguish the flames....

The boat was a total loss but you can just imagine the owners frustration when the
Fire department managed to board the remains and find numerous portable fuel containers and gas bottles littered around the vessel!

How much would you hate that jet skier?

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'New boats can't have halon fitted to them anymore though. But a lot of the older ones still have it fitted.' Well they shouldn't , it's been illegal to have on board for almost 10 years.......
Okay well I seem to remember someone telling me if it was fitted with halon before the law came in then they can keep it?

The last boat I worked on in Mexico had halon fitted and I only got back a week ago.
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Maybe different over there, certainly banned in EU waters. (It was without doubt a brilliant fire extinguishant- just not very environmentally friendly).

'7.5.1 Halon systems are prohibited on all EU ships. Any ships found with halon should be reported to Survey Branch who will notify DEFRA as they are responsible for enforcement action.
7.5.2 Where UK or EU vessels are found to be still fitted with halon, the owners should be advised as follows;
• Retaining halon on an EU flag vessel after 31 December 2003 is a contravention of EU Regulation 2037/2000 and UK Environmental Protection (Controls on Ozone-Depleting Substances) Regulations 2002.
• While MCA is not directly responsible for enforcement of this regulation, the halon should be replaced.
• Other authorities (in the UK or other EU countries) intend to take enforcement action if the halon is not replaced. In the UK we have instructions to inform DEFRA about vessels which still have halon so they may take appropriate action
• The supply of halon in Europe for marine use is illegal and should now be non-existent and world-wide will be increasingly difficult to obtain.
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just not very environmentally friendly.'
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But then again, neither is 20 tonnes of burning fiberglass, resin, plastic and laminate!

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There are halon "equivalents"
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Be interesting to find out if the nuclear subs still have halon in the engine rooms I know they did 4 years ago
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But then again, neither is 20 tonnes of burning fiberglass, resin, plastic and laminate!

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Precisely... what a load of shirt -the r all this is.
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Be interesting to find out if the nuclear subs still have halon in the engine rooms I know they did 4 years ago
Because you wouldn't want an environmentally unfriendly nuclear powered weapon of mass destruction.

That said, if you HAVE one, you can probably put any kinda fire extinguisher you like on it.

I mean, who's gonna take it off you?
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I guess cos once the excitement of the purchase is over and they gotta pay for it. The mind swings towards.. how the duck am i gonna get rid of it!!
Let it burn and claim
That's a very cynical view...........and I bet it hasn't even crossed the minds of the insurance investigators who are due to visit the boat tomorrow
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