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Old 12 February 2006, 05:39   #1
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Bow Rope Guide

Hi Guys,
I need to buy or make an anchor rope guide / fairlead for the bow of my RIB. I think that maybe cutting down some D section rubbing strake and gluing it over the bow could do the job. I only require about 1 to 2ft.
I have seen some posh cleat type guides fitted to Valiant ribs but they are too expensive at about £100.
Does any member know where I can get hold of a small length of this stuff, or any other ideas or methods to guide the anchor rope?
Thanks in advance.
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phone me on 07815 144269 and i will sort out an offcut of big d for you
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I forgot to say that the rib is made from PVC, so i aint sure how easy it is to stick D strake to it....suggestions and ideas please.
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Yes, you can do that. I'm sure Paul will explain how to do it if you contact him.
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do it in the warm or wait a month the gloo doesn't like the cold much
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I'm sure Ribcraft would have some rubstrake for you. They use a heavy duty D shaped strake. I believe it's rubber, as oppoed to pvc, which should be easy to glue.

email the salesman jason@ribcraft.co.uk
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Hi All,
Im still trying to find a suitable bow rope runner. Does anybody out there know who supplies anything like the one in this pic.

Thanks.
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Im still trying to find a suitable bow rope runner. Does anybody out there know who supplies anything like the one in this pic.

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Talk to Laurence Lock at Barnet Marine (01707 331 389), they can supply rope fair leads and will explain what glues to use and how to use them on PVC.
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Im still trying to find a suitable bow rope runner. Does anybody out there know who supplies anything like the one in this pic..
It's difficult to tell from your picture but it looks very like a piece of 'D' section which has been split (using an angle grinder.... ) to allow the rope to locate. If it is that, I'd recommend you don't do it. The rope will easily roll out of the slot even though it looks as though it is secure. If you still want something similar, use two strips of 'D' section side by side.

For gluing rubber to pvc, you will need to prime the pvc with pvc adhesive and allow it to cure. You can then use Bostik 2402 to glue the rubber to the pvc primed area.

Do a ribnet search to find the methods used for gluing each material.
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seems standard practice to just use ribbing strake and cut out an inch section for the rope. that seems to be what ribcraft and others can do


i sent for a slightly different approach
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Ok, here goes.
Has anybody got a big D off cut about 18” long that they wish to sell?
Poly marine’s D section is £13.50 + Vat p/meter, not too expensive I know but somebody must have an off cut to get rid of.
Also I need to know what is the definitive method of preparation and sticking rubber D strake to a PVC rib.

Thanks in advance and over to all you sticky Ribneter’s
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seems standard practice to just use ribbing strake and cut out an inch section for the rope. that seems to be what ribcraft and others can do


i sent for a slightly different approach
Or you can have one of these - cant remember what it cost now though - as I made a last minute change to the spec to have it added.
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Or you can have one of these - cant remember what it cost now though - as I made a last minute change to the spec to have it added.
I don't see how that stops the rope rubbing on the tube under load.

I always leave the rope loose over the bow - I only tie off to the cleat to stop the rope from flying around. When mooring or anchoring, I always put the load on the D-Ring, never over the tube to the cleat. I then run 'safety' or 'backup' lines over the tubes to the cleat - so should anything give way (D-Ring or more likely the clip) it will hold as a last resort. Generally any ropes over the tubes aren't under any load whatsoever.

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I don't see how that stops the rope rubbing on the tube under load.
Im confused - I never said it did - its an alternative to the bit of cut down D strake being discussed here.

Best way to stop rope damaging your tube when under load is thread it through a standard bit of hose pipe - rope can slide up and down inside the hose pipe and your tubes don't get damaged - I use this method for a rope boarding ladder - works a treat.

If however we are just talking about guiding a rope - then these cleat style fairleads will work just as well as cut down strake and look much better.
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Im confused - I never said it did - its an alternative to the bit of cut down D strake being discussed here.

Best way to stop rope damaging your tube when under load is thread it through a standard bit of hose pipe - rope can slide up and down inside the hose pipe and your tubes don't get damaged - I use this method for a rope boarding ladder - works a treat.

If however we are just talking about guiding a rope - then these cleat style fairleads will work just as well as cut down strake and look much better.
Sorry - I thought the idea was to stop tube wear as well as to guide the rope.

As a rope guide, then yes, I agree, yours looks the biz!!

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If this thread is about tube protection from an anchor rope over a bow then surely the d-strake option is not going to work - as the boat bobs up and down and swings from side to side the rope is going to come out of the strake anyway and end up directly on the tube.
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Have a look at this link to see what they fit as standard to XS ribs, i'm sure barnet marine will sell you one.

http://www.boat-finder.com/images/bo...owRubberLR.JPG

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If this thread is about tube protection from an anchor rope over a bow then surely the d-strake option is not going to work - as the boat bobs up and down and swings from side to side the rope is going to come out of the strake anyway and end up directly on the tube.
Yes - I agree with you!!

The only time I would (perhaps) find it useful is if I was actually working on the boat (mooring/anchoring etc) so rope was going over the tube under load. As I said, I never leave the boat with loaded lines over the tubes.

That's the main reson for not putting anything on mine, either a cleat or a D section bit of tube.

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Have a look at this link to see what they fit as standard to XS ribs, i'm sure barnet marine will sell you one.

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Mark - that does look impresive protection - but im still not convinced that in some chop that the rope is not going to dislodge from between that strake
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i had one of these fitted as i wanted something to tie to the wall or side with that would lift the rope away from the toobs but would use the lower d link on front of keel for anchoring etc
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