BIBOA

[John Kennett]

Dartmouth:

Originally Posted by Julian

Bit of a update on boats for the event :

Scorpion - 8.5mtr Scorpion - 300hp Yanmar - 3 Crew
Ocean Devil - 8.1mtr Scorpion - 250 Yanmar - 4 Crew
Tweedy Pie - 8.75mtr Scorpion - 300 Yanmar - 2 Crew
Myles Aweigh - 8.75mtr Scorpion - 280 Volvo - 2 Crew
Happy Hours - 8.5mtr Scorpion - 275 Mercury Verado - 1 Crew
Hot Lemon - 10mtr Scorpion - 2 x 315 Yanmars - 2 Crew
Awsume - 11mtr Redbay - 2 x 300 Yanmars - 3 Crew

Channel Islands:

Originally Posted by Julian

Just an update on people going etc. So far confirmed are :

Scorpion - 8.5mtr Scorpion - 5 Crew
Ocean Devil - 8.1mtr Scorpion - 2 Crew
Hotlemon - 10mtr Scorpion - 2 Crew
Cooke Jar - 8.1mtr Scorpion - 2 Crew
Tweedy Pie - 8.75mtr Scorpion - 2 Crew

Has BIBOA morphed into the Scorpion Owners' Club?

John

[Julian]

Hi John,

It certainly looks that way, No idea why though, just seems that the events are only attended by Scorpion boats. Think lots more people should join us to mix it up a bit.

Hope your well

Julian

[qcamel]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

Has BIBOA morphed into the Scorpion Owners' Club?

John

Is it not because the boats are well suited to this type of use? Like minded people and like kinded boats? Or are we just sad and insecure lemmings?

Ollie

[Bern Hanreck]

The "phenomena" of fleets of big Scorpions (and the occasional Redbay ) is off putting to many folk . I fancied this cruise , but I'm blowed if I'll be the only tiddler holding up the rest . I think I'm right in saying that it's part of the BIBOA mantra that these cruises should be for all shapes & sizes , but at the end of the day , if the little ones won't come out to play , we've only got ourselves to blame ! Any one else fancy playing tail-end Charlie along with me ?

[Roy Smith]

Well all i can say is, If you want to come i wont leave you behind

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by Bern Hanreck

I think I'm right in saying that it's part of the BIBOA mantra that these cruises should be for all shapes & sizes

Bern, you are of course right! The cross channel events are a great opportunity for owners of smaller RIBs to go greater distances than they might otherwise go alone. And BIBOA cruises aren't all long distance offshore events either. We have organised a couple of cruises in the summer and autumn specifically for smaller RIBs with less ambitious agendas. http://www.biboa.com/events.asp

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by Richard B

Bern, you are of course right! The cross channel events are a great opportunity for owners of smaller RIBs to go greater distances than they might otherwise go alone. And BIBOA cruises aren't all long distance offshore events either. We have organised a couple of cruises in the summer and autumn specifically for smaller RIBs with less ambitious agendas. http://www.biboa.com/events.asp

What a patronising load of crap! A 585 Ribcraft will go anywhere that an 8m Scorp will go. You might have to hold on a bit tighter and helm with a little more finesse.

[Searider]

Have not renewed my BIBOA membership this year for the reasons above.

Some of the cruises appear a little "Hard Core" for the more normal ribber.

8m + diesel Scorpions tend to be able to make good progress almost irrespective of weather conditions and reading some of the cruise journals I was glad not to attend.

There are differing cruising speeds between larger and smaller boats and my experience is that sometimes the "cruise in company" can often mean - "we'll see you when we get there". Not that much fun when you're in a smaller slower boat.

Went on a great family cruise organised by Brian (BIBOA) around Plymouth a few years back and then another to the Scillies with Brian (RIBNET). The passage speed was set to match that of the smallest slowest boat and we stuck together in a group.

I'm sure the Cruises they have now are great fun but not really suitable for my family.

[Louise]

Originally Posted by Searider

Some of the cruises appear a little "Hard Core" for the more normal ribber.

Depends on your definition of 'normal' and 'hard core'.

reading some of the cruise journals I was glad not to attend.

Can you remember which ones?

my experience is that sometimes the "cruise in company" can often mean - "we'll see you when we get there". Not that much fun when you're in a smaller slower boat.

What is this opinion based on? Which cruises did you attend where this was the case?

Went on a great family cruise organised by Brian (BIBOA) around Plymouth a few years back and then another to the Scillies with Brian (RIBNET). The passage speed was set to match that of the smallest slowest boat and we stuck together in a group.

Brian certainly organised some great cruises, by all accounts. It's not always safe to travel in a large group. Often, each boat is paired up with another of similar size/speed so you look out for each other.

I'm sure the Cruises they have now are great fun but not really suitable for my family.

Depends on the age of your family and what they want to do but several BIBOA cruises have families along.

Two questions for you, Duncan:

1. Apart from Brian's cruise and a Weymouth cruise I went on that you attended, which BIBOA cruises have you attended?

2. Did you ever offer to organise a cruise?

[Hugh Jardon]

a couple of questions on biboa

does it cost anything to join
what does the fee give you
what benefits are there with a biboa arranged cruise against any cruise that we arrange ourselves

[Andre]

I agree with Searider. The Biboa cruises are very nice but "every man - rib for himself-. I experienced this in 2003 during the Weymouth cruise following which I said "never again"
Last year , however., I signed up for the Weymouth cruise yet again and had the misfortune of experiencing an electrical fault and even put out a Pan Pan.... I eventually managed to get to Southampton under my own steam. In Southampton waters I met up with fellow RibNet member BenC who provided great assistance

[M Humphray]

"Now Now" children think yourselves all lucky that we can afford our Ribs, whatever the size, as they say "size isnt everything" For various reasons some like large boats, some have to trail them, some garages wont take a large boat, the car can't tow anthing larger, or the most common reason "her in doors". The one thing we all have in common, we enjoy ribbing, so don't lets go down the route of having a go at fellow ribbers.
On the BIBOA cruises, all are welcome, and boats are paired up to run with each other, as they were coming back from Dartmouth this week, I am unfortunately not a youngster, and not wishing to crush my aging bones, so Julian ran with me at my pace. Also for those with smaller boats, there is a certain comfort of having larger boats around, if the going gets tough. I think John thought the forum needed scorping up a bit, and that is why he started this thread.

[Roy Smith]

I am on the committee of BIBOA, and yes i have voiced the same comments as most of you on this forum at the meetings, but there is a bigger picture.
I for one like cruising in company i dont speed off leaving people behind because i once had a 560 Avon so i know what its like being left. But there are others who will and do cruise further afield with big fast RIBS.Mike Deacon is the development officer and a nice chap with it
SPEAK UP AND TELL mike at BIBOA WHAT YOU WANT FROM YOUR MEMBERSHIP MONEY. Dont hold back
That is the only way the club will change.
the web www.biboa.com
All clubs are a bit clickie even this one, i have been cold shoulded at meetings but hey you have to be grown up about it

[Hugh Jardon]

i have had a look at the website

the cruises has 2006 listed at the top instead of 2007
the articles /riblines feedback seems to have stopped in 2005

membership is 50£

it is not clear to me the value that biboa provides for 50£, or have i missed something. not having a go but just trying to understand the value from joining.

looks like this is an opportunity to do some advertising and share the value that biboa can bring to see if new members can be enticed.

roy if you have been cold shouldered then what chance do we have?

[Roy Smith]

Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon

i have had a look at the website

the cruises has 2006 listed at the top instead of 2007
the articles /riblines feedback seems to have stopped in 2005

membership is 50£

it is not clear to me the value that biboa provides for 50£, or have i missed something. not having a go but just trying to understand the value from joining.

looks like this is an opportunity to do some advertising and share the value that biboa can bring to see if new members can be enticed.

roy if you have been cold shouldered then what chance do we have?

What i ment was i was cold shuldered at a rib net cruise
but hey

[Hugh Jardon]

Originally Posted by Roy Smith

What i ment was i was cold shuldered at a rib net cruise
but hey

ooooooohhhhhh! thats not good!

[The Jackeens]

Originally Posted by Roy Smith

What i ment was i was cold shuldered at a rib net cruise
but hey

Hey Roy,

That's not been our experience on RIBnet. Come along on the Priory Bay run and you will meet some top people.

Be great to meet you We'll run across with you if you've not been there before!

Kathleen & Paul

[Hugh Jardon]

roy

a load of us are going from chichester where you are moored so would be good if you were to join in

[Mollers]

As Julian's 'Scorp Fest' to Dartmouth ( Dartmouth) appeared to be organised via this site and consists mainly of his Scorpion owning buddies, why not drop the BIBOA cruise tag. Other than the fact that they've all coughed up £50 and are wearing the stickers, I don't see what it has to do with BIBOA. Unless a BIBOA cruise carries a little more kudos in the Dartmouth region than a Ribnet cruise.

[Roy Smith]

Thanks, subject to work it would be great