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Old 30 January 2002, 16:32   #1
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Anchor line and inflatable tubes

Hey ribsters

I'm having a little problems, and I hope you can help out.

My Rib is a Osprey Viper 5.95.

I have seen on some other brands, that thy have som kind of reinforced hard rubber / plastic up front, where the anchor line can run without making damage to the tubes.

There is nothing like that on my boat.
Do you know if it is posible to bye something like that, so i could fit it on my boat.

When we are achoring in bad wheater it makes some nasty cuts in my tubes.

Any help is apreciated. If you know of any shops in Denmark that sells this it would be perfect, but anywhere i Europe.

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Old 30 January 2002, 16:57   #2
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have the painter tied to the external bow eye with a snap hook on the end leading into the boat. Have the anchor line secured in the boat as usual. Anchor the boat. Then pull back some slack and make an overhand loop in the line. Snap the painter into this and let it go. The boat should now be anchored via the painter to the bow eye with the slack end of the anchor line leading into the boat with no tension on it at all and no pressure on your tubes. This is your lazy line with which you can bring the anchor rope to hand when you need to leave the anchorage. We anchor up for winter cod fishing in some nasty seas in ribs and hard boats using this technique and it is universally used by small angling boats in some variation or another, particularly if they come on our national assn of boat angling clubs/rya powerboat courses.
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Old 30 January 2002, 17:22   #3
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This method works well, and is very easy -- but it can be quite difficult getting the knot undone if it has been under a lot of tension.

I prefer to tie the painter to the anchor line with a double sheetbend rather than making a loop and using a snap hook. It takes a few minutes longer to learn, but makes life easier in the long run!

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Old 30 January 2002, 17:25   #4
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Well I'm doing that now, and it's working, but sometimes I'm having problem getting the anchor up, and I will need to sail into the wind to loosen the rope, during this i need to have a stong hold of the line. To wind up the slap.

This is normaly only a problem if I need to do this myself, but that have happend a few times. Ons I was out with some divers who needed to be picked up i a hurry. And I had to drop the anchor with a boyancy device on one end of the rope, and the come back later to pick up the anchor.

So I'm working on solving the problem, but this little feature would make it a lot easyer.

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Old 30 January 2002, 17:42   #5
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John - true. We tend to splice in loops along the anchor at strategic points so that we can shorten the scope easily. Tying knots in January when its blowing a bit is easier if you take the gloves off - but so bl**dy cold!! and can be a bit of a tussle in the tides we have around here.
Rene - don't see the problem steaming up into the wind - you have a good hold on the rope right fron the off. Its always as well to buoy the end of the warp so that you can drop it quickly in an emergency - and for that day that will never happen i'm sure - when someone forgets to tie the bitter to the boat
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Spliced-in loops? That is organised!

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Old 30 January 2002, 20:11   #7
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Anchor line & tubes

I think I understand what you are looking and have seen them on other ribs/inflatables, which allows the anchor line to run through, but not for tying off.

I have previously used a company called International Marine Supplies (tel 01427 617845 fax 01427 617899) they have been very helpful, and seem to be able to supply most things for ribs/inflatables.

Having just checked the catalogue they have a moulded rubber bow jam cleat that may do the job?

Also, how do you find the Viper, I have had an Viper 5.25 for a number of years, but have rarely seen others around the coast of Britain.

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Any chance of a diagram folks?

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Old 31 January 2002, 07:18   #9
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Aladin --> that's seems to be what I'm looking for, I'm going to give them a call (Don't they have a website).

As for the Viper.. Being a ribster in Denmark you don't have a lot to choose from, so I bought i UK (used). I found it here on Ribnet.

It's a very nice boat. But i seems a bit heavy, maybe it's bacause it's made very strong

I made a new console to put on the right side of the existing, because I needed a spot to put the Radar in

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Old 31 January 2002, 07:54   #10
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Aladdin --> sorry for mis spelling your name in my last post..

Keith --> here's a picture of my idea. It's stolen from the "Ribs fore sale" section"
The picture is not very good, but it might give you the idea.

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Hi

If what I think you are after is some bow protection I think that if you contact Polymarine they should be able to help you their site is

http://www.polymarine.co.uk/default.asp

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Here's a photo of the set up on my RIB. The thicker blue rope is permanently attached to the bow eye and is controlled by the thin blue line (the lazy line) that is hanging down and going back into the boat where it goes through an eye and there is a cleat to tie it off on. As needed another rope can be attached to the end of the blue painter eg an anchor or as in the photo a short mooring line
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Ahhhhhh, now THAT makes sense. Thanks.

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John - the loops wrere spliced in to replace all those overhand knots that we could not undo!!! - but with the fishing boat we anchor at least once every trip and occasionally use a technique using a bit of kit known as an Alderney ring. Attached to a large buoy this method allows the lifting of the anchor by steaming uptide whilst the warp runs thru the ring - (hence the need for the spliced in loops so that they run freely thru the ring), the buoyancy of the buoy then pops the anchor out of the sea-bed and leaves it suspenede just below the buoy. Fraught with all sorts of dangers if you get it wrong but handy at times for lifting a heavy anchor in deep water.
Keith - sorry can't draw the proverbial straight line let alone the diagram. It is mentioned on www.powerboat-training.co.uk under anchoring - wavelength but still no diagram
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Solution: Take an piece of D Strake and slpit it down its length, Glue to bow using Bostik mix or similar.
Try Inflatable Boat Supplies http://www.inflatable-boat-supplies.co.uk/

They should be able to help.

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Another effective method of installing an anchor line guide and anti-chafe protection is to obtain a short length of heavy duty D section rubbing strake, the same as used on most RIB's, and glue it over the bow section. When in place, simply use a sharp knife to cut down the middle of the D section and it will open to form a channel for the anchor line.
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