Upgrade Help Please.

Reaper · 30 August 2013, 11:41

After getting some good advice from members on engine upgrade I am now contemplating weather to upgrade my set up completely and have trolled on the web for hours looking. I'm no expert on sibs and alike but did find this. Honda Honwave t38ie 3.8mt air deck inflatable with Yamaha 9.9hp 2 stroke outboard and trailer, fuel tank, high pressure pump. Everything you will need for some real fun. Purchased new in 2008. Dinghy only used 4 times. In excellent condition. Trailer purchased new and only used twice (purchased after dinghy) so as new. Two aluminium oars included. This kit is going for £1500, is that a realistic price for this and is the outboard to Sib a good outfit match? Thanks.

willk · 30 August 2013, 11:58

IMO, good kit but not a good pairing. I think that you'd need AT LEAST 15hp.

Reaper · 30 August 2013, 12:07

Just what my concern was but I know this yam can be moded to a 15 well so I was told??

willk · 30 August 2013, 13:20

If you know that you can Mod the engine, fair enough. BTW, the engine has to be at least a 2006, or older.

Reaper · 30 August 2013, 13:46

Thx Willk for that info I will find out the year the engine was made. I want to get the kit right this time I need a sib so I can dissemble it to take away like the look of the honwave this ticked all the boxes just the engine was a worry.

Reaper · 30 August 2013, 18:51

After re- reading I assume its a 2008 engine have tried to contact the seller but no joy. So would I be correct in assuming this engine is not going to be man enough for the boat to be use on the sea wonder if any one has this type of set up who could shed some light. I'm not looking for SR71 speeds but enough to be enjoyable. Thx.

willk · 30 August 2013, 19:07

I'm sorry, I have not made myself clear (this happens

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I didn't mean that the engine needs to be a 2006 or older to be modified.

I meant that as a 2 stroke it was unlikely to be a 2008 as they stopped importing 2 strokes in 2006. It may well suit your purpose, but check first to see if it can be "uprated". If it involves new carbs, it's going to be pricey...

MustRib · 31 August 2013, 11:04

for what its worth... I had a Honwave 3.8 originally with a Mariner 15hp 2 stroke, but I changed this fairly quickly to a Yam 20hp 2 stroke. I would suggest 20hp will give you what you want from this set up. I found I was running the 15 flat out most of the time wishing it would go faster ! 20hp was about as heavy as I wanted to lump around with me, and even then I used a trailer most of the time as just easier to get on the water when I wanted. Suggest you get launching wheels as well...the ones that fit on the transom are great, I think italian firm Trem makes them for the Honwave, they have to bend to go over the inflatable tabs behind the transom. Loads of posts on here about them.

Nick Hearne · 31 August 2013, 11:37

Here you go http://www.rib.net/forum/f36/convert...5-a-13461.html
For me 36kg 15hp 2 stroke is as much as i want to cart around, toke my sib over to Bembridge yesterday had a great day

Reaper · 31 August 2013, 22:40

Thanks everyone for the great info big help I think it would be great if it was at least a 15 hp going to have a look at it tomorrow will have a look at engine to see if can be moded. Will let you know. Thumbs!!

Sunstreaker · 31 August 2013, 23:35

It depends what weight you intend to carry and what you want to do with it. 10 hp may well be very sufficient one up, but maybe not if your wanting to tow toys with five on board

Reaper · 01 September 2013, 02:31

Generally it will be used on rivers with up to 5 adults but used of shore with 3 max, I'm still a novice on the sea and don't go out to far yet. Of course the the issue is, is the £1500 price tag over the top for this outfit as is

Boats&Outboards · 01 September 2013, 08:19

Your looking at it the wrong way.

If you spend £1,350 on a Tohatsu 25hp for example, you'd get back maybe £995 from your current Yamaha 9.9hp so its only a few hundred quid upgrade.

Now if only you could find a nice, 2005 Tohatsu 25hp for sensible money

Exe treme · 01 September 2013, 17:25

Hi
Sounds a reasonable package price but having owned a Honwave 380 with a 20hp motor (thats its max rating), consider trading in the Yam for a 15 or 20hp.
The design and size of the Honwave means there is quite a lot of boat in the water, and it might be difficult to get it planing with 2 pax and a 9.9.
I am sure you are aware, but if you view the boat, check the floor holds air at max pressure as they are notorious for flexing otherwise.

Reaper · 01 September 2013, 17:46

A big thanks to everyone who gave advice it was a big help I can safely say with out it I would have just dived in a bought it and been disappointed with the performance I'm not saying it is not a good outfit just not for me. I've decided to find another and will make sure it right first time. Easy to say when that last outfit fit my budget and ticked all boxes. I need a sib I think one that is 3.8 ish and an engine that suits lol more chance of winning the lottery, it just takes time. Thanks again Thumbs

Reaper · 03 September 2013, 16:42

More brain picking I am looking at two potential boats one is the honwave t38ie2 with a 15hp yam 2 or a seapro 3 50 with a Tohatsu 25. 4 any advice from you lords of inflatable water craft would be welcome. Thumbs

Landlockedpirate · 03 September 2013, 17:07

Both great packages. The Honda may be slightly underpowered but should still get on the plane with 2 or 3 on board. Its a great stowaway sib package.

Not sure exactly which Seapro you are looking at, I didnt think they inported a 350 into the UK, bit worried about engine size and weight, 25hp 4 stroke on a 3.5m sib will be heavy but very fast

I think the deciding factor for me would be how you are going to transport it, if its by trailer go for the Seapro because at over 70kg I wouldnt want to be lifting that engine. If its rolled up in a boot go for the Honda.

Reaper · 03 September 2013, 17:17

The seapro just says seapro HD 3.51m comes on a trailer but am I right it dose fold away? Never considered that. I like the look of both. I have been told that the honwaves do suffer from seem leaks? But ether case it must fold away on occasions. That 25 is a heavy beast. Roll eyes

Landlockedpirate · 03 September 2013, 17:34

I have had 3 Honwaves (2.7 and 3.2 V air decks and a 4m alloy deck) and I didnt have any leaks from them at all.

The Seapro will fold away, buts it will take longer and weigh more than the Honda. If its on a trailer, go for the Seapro, it will be a nice package.

Stippolyte · 03 September 2013, 18:34

Dare i ask if you considered the Aerotec.? Takes up to a max 25 2s.