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27 May 2016, 11:35
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SIB on a small (non boat specific) trailer
Here we go again...
For those who are trailering a SIB are any using a really small compact box type trailer with a simple carpeted ply V shape? One that is still capable of taking the engine on the transom too?
Obviously with a solid floor SIB/larger engine a trailer is needed but the boat can still be manhandled off the back rather than needing to be 'launched' as such (ie trailer half in the water) as with a RIB.
Also did someone on here have a detachable transom wheel arrangement where the wheels were not bolted onto brackets but 'clipped' over the transom?
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27 May 2016, 11:38
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Country: UK - England
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Boat name: Bombard
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Maybe like this:
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27 May 2016, 11:50
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Boat name: Spy-sea-one
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yes max i do two side bunks and a keel bunk inline with the transom to take the weight of the engine.
lovely little boat that.
gurnard fitted transom wheels made by him on the FRIB
cheers
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27 May 2016, 12:26
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Cheers Jeff - got any more info/pics?
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27 May 2016, 14:03
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here you go just took some, thinking of changing bunks to HDPE so it slips off better not that its too bad i just make sure the stern floats then just lift and push off.
cheers
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27 May 2016, 15:03
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Cheers Jeff, so is the engine just against the extended keel bunk or on it? Got a wider side pic of the whole thing?
Reason I'm asking all this is I had a SIB on a trailer before and the trailer (even though a small one) was a right lump.
I'd like to be able to store the SIB upright on it's side in the garage as I do with the Aerotec but then want a really compact trailer to 'lose' somewhere too.
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27 May 2016, 15:35
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the keel rests on the extended bunk the strap pulls down under the keel bunk and rides well at that the winch strap only holds the bow with two docking arms for lining up for recovery.
just for info the boats out of line a bit at the moment because iv'e been changing things so the side bunk doesn't touch the floor only the tube.
my boats too heavy to do what you want so is the trailer at 200 kg but i have stored it on its side but its still 600 mm wide there are some trailers that pull apart to store which might fit your needs.
i have a duuo trailer for garden rubbish etc basically the top comes off leaving a flat base with wheels and draw bar you could extend the draw bar on them and fit lightweight bunks that come off you would have something that would stand up the in a corner google the duuo and you will see what i mean they are very good if tight on space.
cheers
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27 May 2016, 16:36
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here you go max same as mine if your transporting the aerotec you could make a plywood top it can sit in, then extend the draw bar to suit length, the draw bar is bolt on and is 50 mm box height from floor to the flat top 500 mm perfect for the aerotec as you would just lift the draw bar and slide her off. if you need any measurements let me know its in my garden. they have lights fitted too but might not be any good for launching but that could be sorted also the metal top would support the engine and transom.
cheers
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27 May 2016, 17:00
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[Max looks on hard drive for pics of trailers from outfits he's split and sold on the last few years]...
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27 May 2016, 17:04
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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g
here you go max same as mine if your transporting the aerotec you could make a plywood top it can sit in, then extend the draw bar to suit length, the draw bar is bolt on and is 50 mm box height from floor to the flat top 500 mm perfect for the aerotec as you would just lift the draw bar and slide her off. if you need any measurements let me know its in my garden. they have lights fitted too but might not be any good for launching but that could be sorted also the metal top would support the engine and transom.
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This would be for something heavier - probably 100 - 120kg boat all in with fuel + engine 50kg.
Ideally transport to slip by trailer then launch with transom wheels.
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27 May 2016, 18:08
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The Duuo's capacity is 400 kg your talking same weight as mine 100 boat 62 engine + kit. Extream trailers do a 350 only weighs 95kg. Towsure use to do build your own trailer kits just need galvanising when it's built.
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27 May 2016, 22:25
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why not just use a normal boat trailer,you can still carry boat to the water if you want. and if you take the stubs off for winter will store on its side easy.
you do of course have the option to launch and not carry the boat...
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28 May 2016, 08:39
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Originally Posted by HDAV
why not just use a normal boat trailer,you can still carry boat to the water if you want. and if you take the stubs off for winter will store on its side easy.
you do of course have the option to launch and not carry the boat...
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Main issue is storage during the season, the boat has to go on it's side as I need the garage space and there is nowhere to store the trailer easily (short of dismantling and feeding through a rear door to the garden) hence needing the most compact solution possible.
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28 May 2016, 10:49
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When you google folding trailers (images) there's some that are perfect for you max but they seem to be in Australia.
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28 May 2016, 11:26
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I've not done it but I've seen roof bars added to the top of the trailer, this allowed the sib to be strapped on a running board that was attached to the roof bars down each tube.
This then left the trailer to be filled with engine, kit, camping stuff etc.
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28 May 2016, 11:34
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>>> be for something heavier - probably 100 - 120kg boat all in with fuel + engine 50kg.
Is this for a Y-class? Is that all they weigh? Take off the weight of a full fuel tank and give or take that leaves 75kg for the SIB at your lower figure. A Honwave 3.5 alloy floor weighs that (well 73kg) and surely the Y-class is far heavier build than that??
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28 May 2016, 11:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Max...
Main issue is storage during the season, the boat has to go on it's side as I need the garage space and there is nowhere to store the trailer easily (short of dismantling and feeding through a rear door to the garden) hence needing the most compact solution possible.
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Can you roll a trailer on its side like you do with the boat? With a well mounted pulley and perhaps something to stop the wheel sliding/skipping sideways it doesn't sound too hard. You must be taking the engine off to roll the boat though - so how important is it that the trailer can carry a sib with engine installed?
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28 May 2016, 17:43
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You could leave boat on the trailer engine off deflate the boat & strap down the boat, so having about 650 MM sticking out from the wall to assist lifting a couple of cheap chain blocks from machine mart. Or lift it up to the roof if the garage has an Apex roof.
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28 May 2016, 19:22
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I don't get how a none boat trailer is easier to store than a boat trailer ???
I saw some red pike trailers (road sign, traffic light) ones for sale somewhere (forgot where for not a lot and thought they looked perfect for a sib with a little modification but still need a car sized space to store anything much smaller won't carry much anyway.
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28 May 2016, 19:49
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SIB on a small (non boat specific) trailer
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I don't get how a none boat trailer is easier to store than a boat trailer ???
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Well my camping type trailer stands on end at the back of the garage...takes up about 2ft of floor space. If I want to get the boat trailer in I would need to dismantle it...which is possible but a pain.
Can just make it out here behind boat.
Haven't carried inflated boat on it but could easily take off sides and floor and add some bunks. Sometimes carry an outboard clamped to a timber frame.
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