Newbie and his terrible issue.

Liftman · 06 May 2018, 21:49

Hi Folks. I am an avid fisherman, and after years of casting from the shore, I have decided to go afloat. The reasoning for this is that myself and Mrs Liftman will fairly shortly be moving to Tenerife. There the sea is warm and full of fish, but very deep.
I want a small boat to fish off, that will handle a current without an excessive amount of drift (difficult to anchor when it drops to 700' about half a mile out), but that is man enough to handle my 20 stone and the more petite Mrs L. It appears that a SIB would be perfect for what I want, but I am a little concerned at the lack of hull V that gives the directional stability.
I have had many deep v speedboats in the past including Fletcher, Glastron and Tremlett, so i am aware of boat handling and so on, but never anything quite so small, with such a small engine! My last boat had a 3500cc turbocharged inboard.
What would you all recommend, taking into account the following.
1.Nothing over 3.99m in length due to Spanish regulations
2.No engine over 15 HP regulations again
3.small enough to pack into an average car
4.Able to be prepped, launched recovered and packed by one person

i know this is an impossible ask, but having read the forum, I know that there will be some advice coming my way.

Thank you all

MCL · 06 May 2018, 21:55

I would say aerotec if you really want a deep v but they aren't very roomy boats and not ideal fishing platforms.

If you are packing away each time you want an high pressure air floor for ease maybe a honwave?

If you have the money of course you might want to look at a frib....

Outboard wise I would get a 2 stroke if transporting in a car.... Have you also read the which SIB thread? Some very useful information on there.

Liftman · 06 May 2018, 21:58

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Originally Posted by MCL

I would say aerotec if you really want a deep v but they aren't very roomy boats and not ideal fishing platforms.

If you are packing away each time you want an high pressure air floor for ease maybe a honwave?

If you have the money of course you might want to look at a frib....

Outboard wise I would get a 2 stroke if transporting in a car.... Have you also read the which SIB thread? Some very useful information on there.

Working my way through, but it does seem to pose more questions than it answers!

Max... · 06 May 2018, 22:08

Welcome to the forum.

Aerotec probably fits the (tough) bill best but any small boat/SIB will drift and blow about. Honwave also a great choice but does not have the Aerotec V floor to give better handling and the deeper more secure feeling but on the flip side less draggy and much more affordable new of secondhand.

A hard floor is ultimately more suited to fishing but then a PITA to assemble and much heavier. A thick rubber floor covering helps a lot though.

What's your accomodation/storage/launch site situation? If there is any flexibility here then an inflatable might not be the best option...

Liftman · 06 May 2018, 22:17

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Originally Posted by Max...

Aerotec probably fits the (tough) bill but any small boat/SIB will drift and blow about. Honwave a great choice but does not have the Aerotec V floor to give better handling and the deeper more secure feeling. Hard floor ultimately more suited to fishing but then a PITA to assemble and much heavier. A thick rubber floor covering helps a lot though.

What's your accomodation/storage/launch site situation? If any flexibility here then an inflatable might not be the best option...

500 yards from my front door to a fairly level beach launch site. Otherwise it's a car journey to somewhere else on the island, dependent on wind and waves. Tenerife can be quite choppy/rough as it's in the middle of the Atlantic.
Storage is at home, alongside the house if inflated, in the large laundry room if packed up.

This will only be for near coastal trolling and drifting. All within 1/2 to 1 mile of shore max.

Max... · 06 May 2018, 22:25

So could you use a trailer?- if you have space I'd do that - so much easier just to have the boat all ready and rigged and then go with a hard floor?

Liftman · 06 May 2018, 22:32

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Originally Posted by Max...

So could you use a trailer?- if you have space I'd do that - so much easier just to have the boat all ready and rigged and then go with a hard floor?

Couldn't put a trailer on the local beach, it's not allowed, and trailers can be stupidly expensive in Spain. They require the same MOT (ITV) as a car!
Also there is the security aspect of being able to put the boat away in the house when not in use.
Also, Mrs L seems to think grandkids would want to use that part of the garden for playing or some similar nonsense.

Liftman · 06 May 2018, 22:33

But must admit those FRIBS look intriguing. But a bit pricey.

paintman · 07 May 2018, 10:09

To slow a drift down when the wind is pushing you along use a drogue.
I use one of these both for sea fishing on my 17' Dory & on various hire boats on Rutland/Draycote/Grafham etc
Wychwood International Para Drogue | Uttings.co.uk
I usually take the rings to a single point. Pulling on one cord collapses the drogue & makes recovery easy.

Liftman · 07 May 2018, 11:28

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Originally Posted by paintman

To slow a drift down when the wind is pushing you along use a drogue.
I use one of these both for sea fishing on my 17' Dory & on various hire boats on Rutland/Draycote/Grafham etc
Wychwood International Para Drogue | Uttings.co.uk
I usually take the rings to a single point. Pulling on one cord collapses the drogue & makes recovery easy.

Don't you find a sea anchor gets in the way when you have an active fish darting under the boat?

Highland Haggis · 07 May 2018, 15:31

Well f-rib 360 and Suzuki 9.9 four stroke [emoji106]

jeffstevens763@g · 07 May 2018, 19:41

Aerotec for sure but consider a takakat with a 10hp tide wise go with the flow.

paintman · 07 May 2018, 20:13

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Originally Posted by Liftman

Don't you find a sea anchor gets in the way when you have an active fish darting under the boat?

This is a drogue, not a sea anchor & is fully deployed & open around 20/25 feet from the boat. Using the two lines at different attachment points can be used to control the direction of drift as well as just working as a brake. Something I've used a lot trouting where the drogue is deployed over the side of the boat so the boat drifts sideways allowing both anglers equal access to the water in front - was taught by an old England International fly fisherman - but never needed to do so at sea.

In nearly 50 years of using them for trout & sea I've never had a fish or gear get tangled with a drogue.
I used to do a lot of competition trout fishing & I've never seen a boat partner have a problem either.

There's a first time for everything though & I expect the fishing Gods will read the above & decide I'm overdue for a visit!

Liftman · 08 May 2018, 18:03

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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

Aerotec for sure but consider a takakat with a 10hp tide wise go with the flow.

Not sure that the open transom appeals too much. Always looks odd.

Poly · 08 May 2018, 18:38

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Originally Posted by Liftman

Not sure that the open transom appeals too much. Always looks odd.

The day you take a big green wave over the front and are then knee deep in water till you manage to get it out you may disagree. Of course if you go transomless you may find any kit you left of deck has just gone for a swim.

jeffstevens763@g · 08 May 2018, 18:48

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Originally Posted by Liftman

Not sure that the open transom appeals too much. Always looks odd.

Solid or open on offer

Iron Dials · 08 May 2018, 19:02

At the risk of kicking the can down the road.....
I would suggest learning what people use there as a starting point.
I’m not sure of the wisdom in asking people (albeit v experienced in this part of the world) who aren’t used to the conditions in Tenerife.

Max... · 08 May 2018, 19:44

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Originally Posted by Iron Dials

At the risk of kicking the can down the road.....
I would suggest learning what people use there as a starting point.
I’m not sure of the wisdom in asking people (albeit v experienced in this part of the world) who aren’t used to the conditions in Tenerife.

Fair point.

Liftman · 08 May 2018, 20:03

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Originally Posted by Iron Dials

At the risk of kicking the can down the road.....
I would suggest learning what people use there as a starting point.
I’m not sure of the wisdom in asking people (albeit v experienced in this part of the world) who aren’t used to the conditions in Tenerife.

I'll be honest, I haven't seen much in the way of SIB traffic around in Tenerife. Generally there are plenty of RIB's and solid boats, or Kayaks.