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Old 20 October 2014, 18:13   #21
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on the ZodiacMilpro catalog says Max hp:

"Roll-up 40 hp - Rigid 65 hp
Rigid 2 x 30 hp"

so does that help me? i have the rigid flooring and im using the 60hp. so am i good if i get check?
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Old 20 October 2014, 18:15   #22
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the reason im getting this is i have trained with boat when i was in the Marines and i know the in's and out's. i done many opp's with it and it doesn't bother me. i just want to have the same boat that i was using when i was in. that is way im getting this boat and i love everyday of it when i had it. i love to sit on the tub and just hold the outboard.
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Old 20 October 2014, 18:22   #23
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on the ZodiacMilpro catalog says:

"Roll-up 40 hp - Rigid 65 hp
Rigid 2 x 30 hp"

so does that help me? i have the rigid flooring and im using the 60hp. so am i good if i get check?
Nope! The ID plate says the max HP for the boat.

Now does that mean the Coast Guard, sheriff, or insurance are gonna say anything? Probably not, but if they do...

40hp 60hp, I still would not consider it an ideal boat for running out to the Channel Islands. If it is what you are getting then so be it. Just choose your days carefully for the crossing. Always good to have a secondary boat along and a fixed VHF with an 8' antenna, as a handhelds range may not be far enough.
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on the ZodiacMilpro catalog says Max hp:

"Roll-up 40 hp - Rigid 65 hp
Rigid 2 x 30 hp"

so does that help me? i have the rigid flooring and im using the 60hp. so am i good if i get check?
Just put on 40 HP decals. I've seen that boat run 65s before. Does it have the transom reinforcement straps, if not you can buy them.
I go to Cat all the time in sibs, pick your day, and don't take the wife and kids.

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Old 20 October 2014, 23:25   #25
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Just put on 40 HP decals. I've seen that boat run 65s before. Does it have the transom reinforcement straps, if not you can buy them.
I go to Cat all the time in sibs, pick your day, and don't take the wife and kids.

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what is "transom reinforcement straps" can you show me a photo?
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Old 21 October 2014, 00:21   #26
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As Peter said. That boat will only accommodate 40hp. As far as I am aware you can't just put an Ali floor in any sib. They are either inflatable floor, or rigid. Meaning that sib is designed to accommodate up to a 40hp motor with the Ali floor it comes with. A 65 is way way overboard. It will weigh too much, possibly break the transom and invalidate your insurance. If I were you I'd be getting a rib all day long.
He's not putting any floor into any SIB. The F-470s were designed to work with both roll up aluminum slat floors and with aluminum floor boards. The slat floors are nowhere near as rigid hence the 40 hp rating vs the 60 hp rating with the aluminum floor boards.

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I could be wrong but that's my understanding of that transom plate. And it may appear the 60hp is no heavier than a 40. That's still a lot of power on an inflatable boat!
Not really for a boat of that size and build. The transom plate on my 4.7m SIB states the maximum power is 60 Kw (80 hp). There are SIBs rated for up to 175 hp.

The military routinely use 55 hp outboards in these boat, which are well within the design parameters with the aluminum floor boards. These are not light duty boats.
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Old 21 October 2014, 04:10   #27
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Thanks for all the help, I'm 95% now on the 60hp
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Lots of great F470 related threads in the North American section, here is one on this very topic:

http://www.rib.net/forum/f45/engine-...0-a-56975.html

By the way, if the 18 gallon fuel bladder is new, $250 is a very good price. I've priced the 6 gallon versions through Zodiac mil-pro and they want close to $1000 for those. Another option is to use the Scepter Nato plastic jerry cans with the fuel pick up caps.
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I have the 18 gallon and a 6 gallon. I'm going to keep the 6 as a back up.
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what is "transom reinforcement straps" can you show me a photo?
I will tonight mate.

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Old 22 October 2014, 14:15   #31
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what is "transom reinforcement straps" can you show me a photo?
My image posting is flecked up, If ya Google '' Zodiac F-470 transom straps
their half way down the page.

I don't use them on my CRRC as I have rigid mounts from my radar arch triangulating her stern.

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You aren't going to be mounting and dismounting a 60hp without a crane or engine hoist. You won't use 60hp unless its very heavily loaded with divers. 40hp would be fine for family cruising.

I think you'd be better off in a RIB too. The FC470 is a highly capable sib but its basically a flat bottomed boat which will rattle the kidneys out of you. There's a reason you are having to go all the way to the East Coast to find one. They are not an optimal choice for So Cal Catalina type trips regardless of the HP.
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You aren't going to be mounting and dismounting a 60hp without a crane or engine hoist. You won't use 60hp unless its very heavily loaded with divers. 40hp would be fine for family cruising.
Why would a 40 hp out board that weighs 240 lbs be any easier to hoist off a transom than a 60hp outboard that weighs 240lbs?

I have a 40 hp on my 4.7 m SIB and could certainly use more power.

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I think you'd be better off in a RIB too. The FC470 is a highly capable sib but its basically a flat bottomed boat which will rattle the kidneys out of you. There's a reason you are having to go all the way to the East Coast to find one. They are not an optimal choice for So Cal Catalina type trips regardless of the HP.
Can't argue with that.
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Dumb question, what SIB mean?

I already have the boat now so there is no turning back. LoL.

I'm going with the 60hp. I will also taking my boat to the river and lakes.
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Dumb question, what SIB mean?

I already have the boat now so there is no turning back. LoL.

I'm going with the 60hp. I will also taking my boat to the river and lakes.

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Soft hull (as in foldable)
Inflatable
Boat

in contrast to

Rigid hull
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Why would a 40 hp out board that weighs 240 lbs be any easier to hoist off a transom than a 60hp outboard that weighs 240lbs?
That "6" is affected more by gravity than the "4".

Same sort of effect that makes a tool with "Marine" on it twice as much as an identical one that doesn't say it.


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Why would a 40 hp out board that weighs 240 lbs be any easier to hoist off a transom than a 60hp outboard that weighs 240lbs?

I have a 40 hp on my 4.7 m SIB and could certainly use more power.
Maybe because the 249lb 60hp is 30 or more lbs heavier than the "240lb" 40hp??

e.g.
Midrange Specifications | Yamaha Outboards
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photo's of my RIB

my friend in NC took a few photos of my boat, tell me what do you guy's think? anything funny i should know?
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