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Old 16 April 2015, 11:35   #21
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Yep I've got a 1982 R310. I've just got a new 4stroke 9.9 mariner this year but the cowling is that much bigger than the 2 strokes so I can't steer with the wheels up anymore so they now have to come off and live in the bow which takes up precious storage space.
I solved the problem by buying a prowave 380 to add to the fleet.

I can't part with the avon though, it's a lovely boat. I re-varnished the floorboards last year and is incredibly well built.
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Old 16 April 2015, 11:37   #22
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Here is me at 6 months and 5 in the same boat!
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Old 16 April 2015, 16:44   #23
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You have not changed a bit Phil !!!!!!!

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Old 16 April 2015, 18:22   #24
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Haha I'm a bit taller now!
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Old 17 April 2015, 08:57   #25
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Great images Blootac. Your Avon looks exceptional condition, as ours was (image below). I have great fondness for well kept old Hypalon inflatables. The other image is of a 1972 Zodiac we owned until 4yrs ago, that was original including the immaculate floorboards and oars which had never even been re-varnished. The picture was taken when it was 39yrs old.
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Old 17 April 2015, 09:14   #26
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Oh wow, yours was gorgeous. Mines got quite a few grooves in the transom from various engines over the years. Your bow dodger looks like it has an interesting possibly inflatable filled lip?

Mine has a slight leak through two layers of hypalon at the back where the transom meets the tubes, it's only slight and keeps enough pressure over 5 days to be safe so it's not a concern of mine, but it does weigh a ton. It's heavier than the prowave 380 I've just bought which made it unusable by myself (couldn't get it down off the roof or put the floor boards in by myself).
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Old 17 April 2015, 09:18   #27
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It was interesting to see just how small the Avon's tubes were compared to the much younger honwaves and prowaves at a meet I attended a few weeks ago.



And this one showed the use of the transom wheels for launching and recovery last may
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Old 19 April 2015, 07:53   #28
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Hi Fenlander..thanks for the feedback.. it helps give others a better view point rather than just my view.



I do stick with my thoughts and experiences with roller boats. However I can appreciate your different experiences and why you find transom wheels so useful. I have never been in the situation you describe where you have to tow your SIB by hand for such long distances and by the sounds of it..over tarmac pavements rather than shores. I would probably get a SIB suitable for transom wheels myself if I had to do that. I couldn’t use my 4.3 Quicksilver either as its too heavy for me on my own with transom wheels.



Below is a typical type of place that I launch from and I hope you can appreciate transom wheels would be as much use as rubber oars in amongst the rocks. There is also a drop of two foot from the side of the road. I cant launch my 4.3m SIB there..so I take my 2.6m Seago. There was not another boat moving on Loch Leven on Friday..never mind folk fighting for the layby I parked in.


I didn’t use roller boats either.. I inflate my SIB and then hold it on my back by grasping the seat. I must look like a giant tortoise on its hind legs..as I waddle across the boulders. I had a great day and will tell of that adventure shortly.. as well as post a photo of the deflated roller..probable Heinz Bean tin size ? but will let you see for yourself.



Sorry for the delay replying.. I was in the wilderness adventuring.... at Loch Leven
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Old 19 April 2015, 09:46   #29
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Gurnard, I am very very jealous.
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Ha Gurnard I said to Mrs Fenlander the other day you were probably slow replying because you were somewhere nice where we'd all rather be!

I must admit I mentioned rollers to the Mrs about 5ys ago when we were in Knapdale for a couple of weeks operating two small boats from the little bay in the image below. A few times I estimated the tide range incorrectly so we were left high and dry...unable to move the 13ft GRP boat with its fixed 20hp. Of course the 3m SIB also in image with a Tohatsu 9.8 was an easy carry for two people.

The other image is of a typical Saturday slipway down here... what you can't see is behind me when taking the photo there were three 4WDs backing down jousting for the next slot to put in hard hulls and larger RIBs. That's why our set up procedure away from the slip then weaving down between them all on our transom wheels to get away unhindered works so well.

It's busier than you'd choose isn't it!!
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Hi again guys..I guess I was a bit over enthusiastic when I said a roller was around the size of a tin of beans when deflated..its actually about two times larger than a small tin of pea and ham soup. I could tie it tighter but left it loose so you can see it has a decent wide opening for blowing it up. A standard connector from the sib hand pump fits it perfectly. So it doesn’t take long to inflate or deflate.

Thanks for showing your places for SIBBing too. Far different from my places.

Im a bit of a loner and prefere peace and quiet.. that many people around me..and I would feel claustrophobic ? I guess the solitude of my places could worry some though ? We are all different ....

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Inflatable boat rollers.

Just had a thought which may have already been covered on this ever expanding thread!
I have the same issue with transom wheels & mounting an aux.
what I have to do is get boat in water, remove wheel & mount engine. Bit of a pain at the moment as I have fold down wheels but have added wing nuts to make the removal tool less. I'm not a fan of these wheels as they are somewhat rickety so will be getting some properly removable zodiac ones when funds allow. Either chuck them in the boat if you are recovering elsewhere or do as I do and leave them in the van / car.
I realise they are more expensive but they are certainly my preferred method
Just food for thought!
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All a good read, thanks guys. Gurnard, what rod holders are they? How have you fixed them?
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Just my tuppence worth.....
I love my transom wheels and use them on my bigger Sib - 3.5 m aluminium floored Honwave .
Having acquired a 2.6m Slat Floor Seago Eco I thot I might as well use them on that too.
Bought some 40mm aluminium u section to mount the Honwave transom wheels onto the little Seago.
I dry launch the Honwave off my trailer so the Transom wheels are a must.
I use a metal pole looped through the towing eyes of the Honwave to pull it along like a cart horse too and from the water, then I let the trailer winch do the hard retrieving bit.
The weather has been rotten so I blew the Seago up in the living room today..... cut and drilled the aluminium u section in the garage then mounted it to the Seago transom.
I've purchased some m10 stainless bolts and intend to use them to mount a 2 inch pine board to the inside of the transom which will bolt in and out quick time with stainless butterfly bolts.
I intend to carry a light weight 2 - 3 hp 2 Stroke aux on the quick release transom extension .
Some pics to illustrate what I'm babbling about.

I use the factory supplied eye bolts on the Honwave to anchor rod holders etc.
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I'll keep plugging away with my transom wheels as long as my back holds out.
Sibs are very flexible little boats whether they are launched from a bag, transom wheels, inflatable rollers or a trailer.
I can see me purchasing some inflatable rollers in the not too distant future tho lol!
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Spot the deliberate mistake in the sketch posted above ho ho ho!
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Old 29 April 2015, 08:45   #37
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Nice mods kaman, can you give us some more shots of how you mount your aux? I've got the honwave wheels on my prowave (honwave clone) and when they're up they are angled outwards so although I don't think I could use your exact setup I could probably do something similar...

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Thanks for the deflated roller image Gurnard. Might think of a couple for just in case use. Up your way for 2wks in the summer and you never know they might get us out of a hole visiting relatively deserted areas. Not an issue for the holiday base though as we've deliberately chosen a place across the road from an all states of the tide slip with pontoon.
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My Honwave ones are slightly different, I also added a 4" handle so that I can handle them easier.
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My Honwave ones are slightly different, I also added a 4" handle so that I can handle them easier.
No way! I've got those exact transom wheels and been getting cold hands for the last 5yrs! Not nice in the winter. I d been trying to think of bits of elastic but your handle idea is great. Is it hard to weld on? Does it weaken them at all?

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