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Old 28 October 2022, 09:32   #21
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Definately worth thinking about. We already have to use the box section as a spacer for the curved wheels to work (as in the photos).......so could be relatively easy to add another packer or indeed a completely new stepped/deeper one.

Have been searching online for a different size but similar style wheels to the BM but there doesnt seem to be much variation in sizes. Was hoping to find ones with a taller reach perhaps.....if that makes sense

Of course we would also have to be aware of wheels getting in the way of the outboard and thicker the spacers, the larger the the boat will be folded possibly


You could make the spacers fixed to the wheels & mirror the quick release fixings onto the spacers. So that the spacers come off the boat with the wheels. Keeps the bulk down for packing the boat up.
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You could make the spacers fixed to the wheels & mirror the quick release fixings onto the spacers. So that the spacers come off the boat with the wheels. Keeps the bulk down for packing the boat up.
Very good point pd I like your thinking.......

The mounting back plate is so large, and I imagine so sturdy on these wheels, that the spacer could be on them rather than on the sib.

There might even be a way of removing the box section completely for something thinner or only have 4 shortish quick release connectors.

Ever little helps when packing this beast of a thing down (and to think I almost went for the Volaire 430!

Will of course have to re-design my transducer bracket a little, and decide if the drop, and the width of the wheels would be ok because of the splash guard bits....
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I was looking for something else and came across these spacers. Thought they may be of interest to Volaire /T38 IE3 sibbers or anyone else who's transom is set back.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255001094...mis&media=COPY
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Steve so are you thinking transom with a through bolt, then spacer/bracket and have the brackets floating 25mm or so away from the back of the transom? I wonder if with 100kg+ it might push up or bend the bolts? Or am I wrong - not used a spacer like this before.
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Iíve siliconíed some painted marine ply as a permanent spacer on my recessed transom
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Steve so are you thinking transom with a through bolt, then spacer/bracket and have the brackets floating 25mm or so away from the back of the transom? I wonder if with 100kg+ it might push up or bend the bolts? Or am I wrong - not used a spacer like this before.
Didn't give it to much thought as I don't need a spacer, but I wouldn't have thought that a 6mm bolt through a 6.5mm hole in an 18mm diameter spacer would bend.
Don't think you would be able to use the "Quick Release" wheels though.
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Steve so are you thinking transom with a through bolt, then spacer/bracket and have the brackets floating 25mm or so away from the back of the transom? I wonder if with 100kg+ it might push up or bend the bolts? Or am I wrong - not used a spacer like this before.


Iím not sure about those either. A solid 1 piece packer would be more suitable imho.
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I suppose it is an over thought solution to the problem of a set back transom, and a one piece HDPE or Ply packer is the simpler option.
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I've got Trem 180kg wheels for my Zodiac Cadet 360. As some others have said they are a bit fiddly in operation but by swearing at them I can get them up and down from within the boat and they are solid when in operation. They seem to have increased in price by more than 20% from when I bought them 3 years ago.

I see that Trem do a set for Honwaves and similar hull shapes. They product number is 6-22007.
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I've got Trem 180kg wheels for my Zodiac Cadet 360. As some others have said they are a bit fiddly in operation but by swearing at them I can get them up and down from within the boat and they are solid when in operation. They seem to have increased in price by more than 20% from when I bought them 3 years ago.

I see that Trem do a set for Honwaves and similar hull shapes. They product number is 6-22007.


Yeh Iíve fancied the Trem wheels with the combo of bracket and Ďpiní that slots in below when the wheels are down - are these like yours?
From what Iíve read on here they seem solid but obviously with the recessed transom Iíd have to pack the brackets and the pins - lots more holes!

They Excel ones I have donít seem to be much better than the last set I had - the brackets look like they are starting to bend a little already after not much use (and storing my boat on a trailer!)

If the Beachmaster types arenít for me then I might have a go.

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Yes, they are the ones I have. The only mod I made was to replace the hinge pin with a drop nose pin to make the wheels easily removable.

I think if you Google the model number in my post, it will take you to Trem's solution for a recessed transom.
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Just FYI on these Trem wheels - according to some emails back and forth with Trem last yearÖ
There are two types that are very very similar:

O0836094 were developed with Zodiac (for the Futura?) many years ago and hence called ĎZodiací

O0836080 was developed with Honda.

The Zodiac ones are 1cm longer apparently - other than that identical.
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