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16 May 2016, 16:58
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Aerotech 380 Long or Short
Hi there im looking at buying a secondhand aerotech 380 which comes complete with a honda BF20D long shaft outboard. I'm confused as the bomard technical stuff says a short shaft!!!!!! Is this the wrong outboard for the aerotech or will it operate fine????
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16 May 2016, 17:06
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You will want a shore shaft as most including me has built up the transom even with a short shaft!
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16 May 2016, 17:17
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CC if it's the outfit on Ebay in poole I'm 90% sure it's a description error as it looks a shortshaft. If is that outfit I reckon somewhere near the start bid is a bargain for such new kit.
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16 May 2016, 17:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander
CC if it's the outfit on Ebay in poole I'm 90% sure it's a description error as it looks a shortshaft. If is that outfit I reckon somewhere near the start bid is a bargain for such new kit.
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Yep thats what i was looking at!!! is there anyway i can work it out from the model number???? would want to make a very expensive mistake!!!
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16 May 2016, 17:28
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Ask him to measure it or query the long/short shaft situation. I think he'll realise once you ask. I so wish that outfit had been available when I paid a lot more for a new grey one last year!
But only buy it if it's the right boat for your family use. See my comments on your other thread.
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16 May 2016, 17:35
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Thanks so much for the speedy reply on both topics. I have already contacted the seller and asked the question but just responded that the engine was purchsed for use with the boat! I'm not sure they know.
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16 May 2016, 17:45
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I think the ad showed the plate? Must have the product ID on there you can check with Honda UK? Have you tried to contact him and get a deal together outside eBay? You will surely want to inspect the boat/engine first anyway and cash speaks loudly when you're the guy standing there with a wad rather than the seller waiting on a potentially problematic ebay sale with 10% on top etc...
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16 May 2016, 17:49
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Yep great advice!
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16 May 2016, 18:15
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Get him to measure it if he doesn't know (top of transom to AV plate... about 15-17"). He does show the ID plates on the listing but it doesn't indicate a shaft length (that I've noticed) unlike some other makes... unless a Honda owner knows how to decode it.
I did check out the sellers and they seem quite genuine so really ought to have the paperwork and manuals from purchase... unless they are so posh this SIB outfit was just loose change to them.
I've said before we all have differing ideas of value but Mrs Fenlander thought it such a potentially good buy she was looking at the listing trying to think of an excuse to buy... one each she says! BTW 2014 was a good year for grey Aerotecs... as long as the floor fits snug!
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16 May 2016, 19:06
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Look at this link for a sold long shaft BF20... Honda 20hp Long shaft | eBay
If you look at the join between tapering lower engine panels and the leg and check the distance from that to the anti-ventilation plate above prop on the one above and compare it with the Poole Ebay listing Honda you can see how much shorter the Poole one is.
99.9% sure it's a short shaft but don't buy on my 99.9% feeling without measuring!
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16 May 2016, 20:26
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thank you all for your help i love this forum!!!!
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16 May 2016, 20:28
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Quote:
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Look at this link for a sold long shaft BF20... Honda 20hp Long shaft | eBay
If you look at the join between tapering lower engine panels and the leg and check the distance from that to the anti-ventilation plate above prop on the one above and compare it with the Poole Ebay listing Honda you can see how much shorter the Poole one is.
99.9% sure it's a short shaft but don't buy on my 99.9% feeling without measuring!
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If its a 2014 maybe they were fitting leftover long shaft 420 transoms?
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16 May 2016, 20:35
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Seller tells me its a long shaft 50cms?
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16 May 2016, 20:53
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Well that's weird as the Aerotec is a normal short shaft transom... if long shaft they are straight across the top and that one curves down.
50cm would make it a long shaft but it really doesn't look it. Wonder if he measured the wrong place... I've had that before and got folks to send me an image of where they're measuring.
See the outboard didn't sell but the boat did.... was it you CC?
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16 May 2016, 20:55
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Quote:
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Seller tells me its a long shaft 50cms?
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well 50cms = 20 inches which is a long shaft. But 380 aerotecs have always been short shaft, 15inches. Something doesn't ring true. Any photos of the back end of the boat? if its a long shaft the prop and plate above the prop will be well below the lowest point of the transom. if the plate is level with the bottom of the transom or maybe a fraction below then its a short shaft. If the transom has a couple of steps in the top edge it is a short shaft transom. if its flat all the way across then you may have found the only aerotec 380 with a long shaft transom!
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16 May 2016, 21:02
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well 50cms = 20 inches which is a long shaft. But 380 aerotecs have always been short shaft, 15inches. Something doesn't ring true. Any photos of the back end of the boat? if its a long shaft the prop and plate above the prop will be well below the lowest point of the transom. if the plate is level with the bottom of the transom or maybe a fraction below then its a short shaft. If the transom has a couple of steps in the top edge it is a short shaft transom. if its flat all the way across then you may have found the only aerotec 380 with a long shaft transom!
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Normal transom by the looks of it,
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16 May 2016, 21:09
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Assume for a moment I'm wrong and the outboard is a long shaft... what dealer would make such a mistake??
As I say you'd hope the seller might have some paperwork on the outboard that would confirm what it is.... unless the dealer was totally clueless and knew it fitted but thought it a long shaft anyway.
We need answers!
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21 May 2016, 15:59
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So I have contacted Honda passed on some serial numbers and they tell me it's a short shaft!!! Picking it up next weekend so will keep you posted thanks for help everyone.
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21 May 2016, 17:12
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Did you get the Aerotec as well?
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22 May 2016, 10:12
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Quote:
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Did you get the Aerotec as well?
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Yes, collecting both next weekend. Can't wait!!!
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