Trailers - recommendations please!

[eupa]

We crane launch Blue Ice so haven't had to manoeuvre the trailer on the sr that each time??.

Stone me Louise, that's cheating.........half the fun of ribbing is getting it" off and on"????????. How much does that cost you??

Jonathan

[jwalker]

Originally Posted by eupa

- but the other day due to my inborn stupidity lost a back wheel as i had put the conical bearings in the wrong way.

The wheel went sailing pass me ---- but the trailer ( had the boat on as well) - was just as stable.

Your middle name is definately F*ckin' Manos. I simply don't believe you.

[eupa]

Your middle name is definately F*ckin' Manos. I simply don't believe you.
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Dont swear at me. You are a real "doubting thomas"

Anybody who has fitted conical bearings will tell you that it is dead easy to put them in the wrong way- as the outer cage is symetrical. The problem was that there was too much play and I hit the outer bearing to put it right in and overtightened the locking nut.which damaged the cage. So when moving with the boat on the trailer - the outer bearings came out, the wheel attached to the hub came off . QED.

Jonathan

and for the nth time who is this "bl*******ing" Manos?

[Jono]

Mmm...are you the same Eupa that criticised people who towed trailers within the legal limits of their vehicles? Yet you endanger other people's lives by your own incompetence?
Oh, and if by "conical" bearings you mean taper roller bearings, then no, the outer ring is not symetrical... stick to Mecanno or somesuch where you can't put peoples lives in danger......

[Jono]

Originally Posted by Jono

Mmm...are you the same Eupa that criticised people who towed trailers within the legal limits of their vehicles? Yet you endanger other people's lives by your own incompetence?
Oh, and if by "conical" bearings you mean taper roller bearings, then no, the outer ring is not symetrical... stick to Mecanno or somesuch where you can't put peoples lives in danger......

F = Full o'shite?

[John Kennett]

Jono

By all means argue with Eupa if you disagree with him, but please keep it civil.

Thank you

John

[Jono]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

Jono

By all means argue with Eupa if you disagree with him, but please keep it civil.

Thank you

John

Considering some of the other guesses posted on here, I think mine WAS civil...... So why ya pickin' on me, Lanky?

[jwalker]

Originally Posted by eupa

..Your middle name is definately F*ckin' Manos...
Dont swear at me. You are a real "doubting thomas"

I wasn't swearing at you. I think that is your middle name.

..Anybody who has fitted conical bearings will tell you that it is dead easy to put them in the wrong way..

Eupa, I think you made a wee mistake and you meant to say, "Anybody who has fitted conical bearings will tell you that it is almost impossible to put them in the wrong way."

[Mr-d]

Break Back trailers all the way.. Dad uses one for his sailing boat, I believe it is the only way to go.. no wet wheels, no wet drumbrakes, no bickering to get the bl***y boat on... Just take the pin out, and hinge... boat reaches point of balance and slowly goes to water..... Same with putting the boat back on, rollers guide the nose on, the balance does the rest... REALLY easy to do one man launches, If needbe, you could launch over the end of a dock, permitting the water not being higher than say 50cm... just unhinge and the back of the trailer can go over the edge, boat will go to water slowly (That's what you have a winch for )

NO idea who supplies them in the Uk Though..... Ours is a freewheel
http://www.freewheeltrailers.com/

Cheers,
Dan.

[eupa]

Mmm...are you the same Eupa that criticised people who towed trailers within the legal limits of their vehicles? Yet you endanger other people's lives by your own incompetence?

I think you got me all wrong Jono. - I stand by my previous remarks that to tow +4000 kgs - even if in the legal capacity of the tow vehicle ( and I don't mean HGV vehicles) is asking for lot of trouble.

As you were not there when the wheel came off ( you didn even read one of my previous posts when I declared quite openly that I was testing the trailer on a deserted part of where I lived) - you really jump to conclusions as regards my competence. And as regards he conical bearings i use, its dead easy to put them in the wrong way.. I can assure you.

As it seems that you only concerned with your own blatent superiority in all matters - I will not bother in the future to reply to your vindictiveness. I would suggest that you look at yourself in the mirror......

jonathan

[MikeCC]

So it is Fauntleroy then

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by MikeCC

So it is Fauntleroy then

Never heard of that make of trailer!

[Nyarla]

Sorry I don`t give a F ! about testing your trailer on safe land etc.

I don`t normally shout on Ribnet unless I`m annoyed, but please people if you don`t even know which way a bearing goes into a hub and yes it is blindingly obvious, if you go back to first principles, never mind needing an engineering degree, then leave the job to a pro.

Yes I`m 30 years a mechanic and the answer is, single bearing unit, anyway you want, unless modern car with magnetic abs pickup in which case grey race cover in.

All taper bearings are cup to the pressure bearings. Thus N]B>S<B[H.
Nut.washer.bearing.cup.stop.cup.bearing.washer.hub .
Also please bear (pun) in mind that all taper roller bearings are designed for a limited end float. If you tighten them up they will, repeat will disintergrate.

Apologies for bad grammer, spelling and the rest of the rubbish but I`ve just finished 2*9 hour back to back shifts.

Nyarla

P.S. I assume everyone can understand that the symbol > means race wide part to the outside, and < V/Vsa.

P.P.S. Not rocket science after all.

[eupa]

then leave the job to a pro.

You must be joking..... Leaving the job to a pro...I will tell you what I have found when leaving the job to a pro ( talking cars)

- waste rag left on exhaust manifolds
- tools left on rocker covers
- bolts that had fallen down and left on the bottom engine cover
- loose wheel nuts


ect

The problem these days is to find a decent pro. And going back to my error- it was a moment on inattention - and I am sure there are a lot of pros who have made similar mistakes

Jonathan

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by Nyarla

P.P.S. Not rocket science after all.

Unless, of course, NASA use double taper bearings... in which case it could quite legitimately be regarded as rocket science!

[jwalker]

Originally Posted by Nyarla

.... if you don`t even know which way a bearing goes into a hub and yes it is blindingly obvious...

Agreed.

If you tighten them up they will, repeat will disintergrate.

Not strictly true Nyarla. In some applications they are preloaded to remove play. But, of course, that's not normally the case on a wheel bearings.
Go and get some sleep.

Originally Posted by eupa

then leave the job to a pro.

You must be joking.....

I find myself agreeing with eupa....I must be unwell.

[Jono]

Originally Posted by eupa

[B]I think you got me all wrong Jono. - I stand by my previous remarks that to tow +4000 kgs - even if in the legal capacity of the tow vehicle ( and I don't mean HGV vehicles) is asking for lot of trouble.

As you were not there when the wheel came off ( you didn even read one of my previous posts when I declared quite openly that I was testing the trailer on a deserted part of where I lived) - you really jump to conclusions as regards my competence. And as regards he conical bearings i use, its dead easy to put them in the wrong way.. I can assure you.

As it seems that you only concerned with your own blatent superiority in all matters - I will not bother in the future to reply to your vindictiveness. I would suggest that you look at yourself in the mirror......

jonathan

Ok, in answer to your criticism, I have re-read, thoroughly, your previous posts and, surprisingly, cannot find any reference to "testing on a deserted part of where I lived". If you would like to point me to the relevant post on this thread, then I'll apologise to you.
The post below is the one I read.

Originally Posted by eupa

Pete, dont want to correct you- but the other day due to my inborn stupidity lost a back wheel as i had put the conical bearings in the wrong way.

The wheel went sailing pass me

As for the towing, you think it is right to admonish someone who tows within the law and the limits set by the vehicle manufacturer yet openly boast about towing a "barely legal" rig at excessive speeds.

Originally Posted by eupa

Barely legal towing- but it does the job, and the local police very sympathetic to Brits. I was followed from Brussels to Nieupoort for about 50 ks and pulling at 130 , only to be stopped and told that my trailer number plate was faling off!!!!!!!!!

So you think of it as "vindictive", when someone points out the utter garbage that you spout off, do you? I look in the mirror every day and although I might not like what I see, at least I can say that despite my faults, which I am well aware of, I don't live in a fantasy world. I have to say that JW was pretty close to the mark. Manos. There was another chap who just kept digging. Perhaps the Fat Ginger One summed it up best. See here…
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fuckwit

[jwalker]

Originally Posted by Jono

...I look in the mirror every day and although I might not like what I see...

Yeh, I have that problem too.

[eupa]

Ok, in answer to your criticism, I have re-read, thoroughly, your previous posts and, surprisingly, cannot find any reference to "testing on a deserted part of where I lived". If you would like to point me to the relevant post on this thread, then I'll apologise to you.
The post below is the one I read.


see my post 24-05-05 #10/ "Rogue Wave-you plonker"

If you really mean what you said- I would suggest you arrange to see a
shrink. Afterall ,it takes one purveyor of garbage to recognise another.

jonathan -- I have added you toy buddy list.

[eupa]

Ok, in answer to your criticism, I have re-read, thoroughly, your previous posts and, surprisingly, cannot find any reference to "testing on a deserted part of where I lived". If you would like to point me to the relevant post on this thread, then I'll apologise to you.
.


see my post 24-05-05 #10/ "Rogue Wave-you plonker"

If you really mean what you said- I would suggest you arrange to see a
shrink. Afterall ,it takes one purveyor of garbage to recognise another.

jonathan -- I have added you to my buddy list.