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24 July 2017, 11:30
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Member
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Town: Hampshire
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Think of it like this:
Despite a maximum speed limit of 70mph, our cars have the potential to do more, but you don't get nicked because you might do 140mph...
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24 July 2017, 15:47
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Town: penzance
Boat name: not named
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trailer Guy
Think of it like this:
Despite a maximum speed limit of 70mph, our cars have the potential to do more, but you don't get nicked because you might do 140mph...
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But you do get nicked if you want to sleep in your car all boozed up. Not overly relevant for me but still rattles me.
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24 July 2017, 16:31
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And to give you the law, the offence is "Drunk in charge" of a motor vehicle, not drink driving (asleep in your car). If you leave your keys with someone else and have no way of knocking the hand brake or other controls, then you may get off the offence! But now I'm being clever!!!
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24 July 2017, 17:52
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Member
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Make: Humber Ocean Pro
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Quote:
Originally Posted by surreycool
And to give you the law, the offence is "Drunk in charge" of a motor vehicle, not drink driving (asleep in your car). If you leave your keys with someone else and have no way of knocking the hand brake or other controls, then you may get off the offence! But now I'm being clever!!!
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Motor vehicle? Hope they don't class a camper van or motor home a motor vehicle then ...
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24 July 2017, 18:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
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Originally Posted by 69cmw
Motor vehicle? Hope they don't class a camper van or motor home a motor vehicle then ...
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Afaik, re. Motor homes & campers. You have to show intent. If the seats are swivelled, keys out of the ignition, bed made up etc, you are fine.
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24 July 2017, 18:25
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
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Originally Posted by gpsguru
Around here you will get stopped and ticketed for no propbag ............ !
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Ahh! That old chestnut. Can someone, anyone please point me to the legislation /regulations that say you have to have a propbag???
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24 July 2017, 18:30
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
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Jk is right, but beware 60kg isn't a huge amount of margin.
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24 July 2017, 18:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Ahh! That old chestnut. Can someone, anyone please point me to the legislation /regulations that say you have to have a propbag???
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Rules on overhangs are the same for all loads...... nothing special about a prop in that regard
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24 July 2017, 18:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Bluefin
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150hp
MMSI: Ex Directory
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Ahh! That old chestnut. Can someone, anyone please point me to the legislation /regulations that say you have to have a propbag???
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IIRC it is all about unmarked overhang ............ I will look at NTTA later for the info .............
I just fit a propbag so at to not draw unwanted attention
The last time I got pulled for something which was a little dubious (ways and means act ?) , I pointed out a personal plate on a car that obviously had the incorrect letter spacing and asked the officer what he was going to do about it .......... he cleared off pretty smartish
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24 July 2017, 19:12
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
Jk is right, but beware 60kg isn't a huge amount of margin.
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In that instance I'd have a weighbridge ticket in the glove box in the hope it would deter Mr plod from getting Mr vosa to come out with his scales
I used to tow a cruiser that was bang on 3.5t dry add a bit of fuel and a few clothes and God knows what it weighed
Fortunately I never got stopped but had the weighbridge ticket just in case
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02 August 2017, 07:44
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Town: wormit
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I got done on the A31 for having no prop bag 30/06/09. Goes down as dangerous load. Got fined but no points.
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02 August 2017, 08:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Davie
I got done on the A31 for having no prop bag 30/06/09. Goes down as dangerous load. Got fined but no points.
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What's the distance between your lights and the prop?
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02 August 2017, 09:17
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Member
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Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
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re weight we were stopped by vosa 20 kg underweight no problem
trailer weight should be stamped on the plate & its capacity.
if your load dosnt exceed the capacity of the trailer no problem
if your load plus trailer dosnt exceed your vehicle capacity no problem
you have 60 kg underweight so you are well inside the max.
i always use a prop bag with a triangle on even if inside the light board and it serves as covering up the prop from prying eyes especially if SS
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02 August 2017, 09:21
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Member
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Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
Make: Honwave 3.5AE
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu Outboard
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I'm the same. SS 5 blade prop with a propbag on inside the lightbboard. Mainly to make it more visible to any muppet getting to close while looking at their phone.....
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02 August 2017, 11:04
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HDAV
Rules on overhangs are the same for all loads...... nothing special about a prop in that regard
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That's my point, if the prop is in front of the light board I.e the light board marks the rearmost point of the trailer, there's no need for a propbag.imo
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02 August 2017, 11:50
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Member
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Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
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Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
That's my point, if the prop is in front of the light board I.e the light board marks the rearmost point of the trailer, there's no need for a propbag.imo
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