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Old 23 September 2016, 06:22   #1
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Trailer bearing/drum issues

Hi all, I launched our rib in Wales in August and, as we launched, so one of the wheels floated to the surface! It turned out the bearing had got so hot the whole wheel had parted company with the axle on the road and, when the weight of the boat was removed, the wheel fell off.

Anyway, we're trying to get it fixed and apparently the drum on the trailer is damaged beyond repair. I'm currently 250 miles from the trailer but I think it's an old version of a super roller coaster 10. Does anyone know how different the drums are between the different roller coaster trailers/have a recommendation for someone to source these from?

And before anyone says it - I've learned my lesson! Lots of grease in future.

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Old 23 September 2016, 09:54   #2
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And before anyone says it - I've learned my lesson! Lots of grease in future.

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and green flag recovery. I feel your pain I had a similar event up on the west coast of Scotland .I ended up just buying a complete new axle from indespension
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And before anyone says it - I've learned my lesson! Lots of grease in future.

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and green flag recovery. I feel your pain I had a similar event up on the west coast of Scotland .I ended up just buying a complete new axle from indespension[/QUOTE]

For a repair in a hurry I suspect this is the answer. Far easier to get parts and someone with the skills to do it than fight with old stuff and it's likely the otherwise is getting old too (unless you spend your life driving in circles the same way!)
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A couple of photos of my SBS trailer hub that I've had about 5 years. Done 6000 miles with me but was bought direct from them as an ex demo. Just had it professionally serviced as I didn't know the condition of the internals but I've never dunked the wheels preferring to drop a bunk and push the boat off and winch back on. Sealed for life bearings still good and plenty of meat on the shoes.
This is just my own opinion but it's certainly paid off fannying about not putting the wheels in. I wasn't bothered when my trailer was un-braked and used to float the boat off and strip repack the bearings after each trip.
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Old 23 September 2016, 12:50   #5
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think that's the key keeping your wheels out of the brine.i stripped mine and painted all the backplates ect with smoothrite oiled the cables greased the joints then fitted a flushing kit if that gets me a bit more time ill be pleased
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Bear in mind that if you have taper roller bearings & do them up too tight it matters not how much grease you've put in! The resulting heat will destroy the bearing & could heat weld the inner race to the stub axle. Guess how I found that out - and it wasn't on a trailer.
On cars & trailers I've always set them so I can JUST feel play when the wheel is rocked with one hand at 12 & the other at 6. Never had an issue with MOT on cars.
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Recently cancelled my Green Flag subscription over their trailer policy.
They did say that, had I had a problem with the trailer, "they would not have left me stuck", they would have done something about the trailer......Aye, and pigs might fly.
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On cars & trailers I've always set them so I can JUST feel play when the wheel is rocked with one hand at 12 & the other at 6.
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Recently cancelled my Green Flag subscription over their trailer policy.
They did say that, had I had a problem with the trailer, "they would not have left me stuck", they would have done something about the trailer......Aye, and pigs might fly.
I cancellrd my rac when they confirmed they only take trailers to the local storage/repairer (to be repaired recovered at your own cost) unless I joined caravan club and payed an extra £70 for there caravan club add on feck that so I joined green flag then a week later 400 miles from home the wheel fell of my trailer .they recovered it to ullapool where I went the next day and bodged a repair I used it for a week then on the day I was leaving and going home they sent a recovery truck to my campsite and over the next week relayed it to my home absolutely first class I cannot fault them
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If your total trailer rig is over 7m then that seems to be where problems start without getting into specifics.

I have called every breakdown cover about 2 months ago and read the small print, I wouldn't be confident many of them will recover under 7m 100% of the time, over 7m choices are severely limited.
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I've actually been in touch with the RYA about this and their findings were the same.
Last communication from them, they were going to try to arrange meetings with the various recovery companies to try to sort something out..
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Since you can't tow a trailer over 7m unless your vehicle is >3500kg its a moot point for most people innit?

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/c...d-width-limits
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Since you can't tow a trailer over 7m unless your vehicle is >3500kg its a moot point for most people innit?

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/c...d-width-limits
Think you'll find there are many of us tow over 7m on a regular basis
Although all legal trailers are 7m long as you don't count the draw bar or overhang so I guess technically if you have a legal trailer then the recovery clubs should recover it if they offer recovery up to 7m
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Think you'll find there are many of us tow over 7m on a regular basis
Well quite. I must be on or over the threshold myself. But it would appear that if so, most of us are towing 'illegally'. Certainly anyone towing a 7m rib with a Disco or smaller is 'illegal'. And if you're towing 'illegally' then I suspect any arrangement you might have with a recovery/insurance company would be difficult to enforce.

NB this 7m thing is new information to me recently and concerns me greatly, so I'm definitely not being holier-than-thou here.
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Think you'll find there are many of us tow over 7m on a regular basis
Although all legal trailers are 7m long as you don't count the draw bar or overhang so I guess technically if you have a legal trailer then the recovery clubs should recover it if they offer recovery up to 7m
Maybe worth checking
Rac, aa and greenflag count the drawbar and all over hang so it is only a 5.5m ish boat.
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Dan your not illegal as you don't count the draw bar or overhang I thing your getting into dodgy Territory once your up to 9-10m
The 7m rule has been around a long time
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What counts as 'overhang'? My trailer extends all the way to the transom?

I guess when they ask you what the length of the trailer is you say "less than 7m" because it's a legal trailer,
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I don't know what to tell you.

The ones I called will not cover anything if the total length is over 7m period. It is that simple unfortunately and if they tell you otherwise it is a sales ploy and or good luck with the recovery driver. Their insurance doesn't cover the length of their wagon plus more than a total of 7m one of them told me.
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How long is the boat? if it's on a trailer manufactured by one of the big makers within the last 15 years or so then chances are it's completely legal
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I'm more worried about insurance at the moment, I heard recently of a caravan claim being refused because the van was longer than 7m.
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