Ribeye S650 minor hull damage on launch/recovery. - Page 2

Leapy · 03 September 2009, 08:52

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Originally Posted by BrAinZ

I think that the boat is actually hitting against the trailer when recovering (or launching).

To me, it looks like it's probably hitting against the cross members of the axles, before it gets a chance to lift back up onto the front rollers.

Anyone got any ideas on how I could stop it doing that?

Yes, take it back to Ribeye and have them fix it by altering the trailer and repairing the damage to the hull.

Your comments read as if you bought the boat new from them or their agent, presumably as a package of boat and trailer? If so, then you've a right to expect the boat to come on and off the trailer without gouging the hull

If it was mine, I wouldn't be doing the work myself and I'd expect them to fix it and quick!

Steve_B · 03 September 2009, 16:43

If it is new and not just new to you, then agree with the above. Dont bugger around with it, but give them a call explain the problem and I am sure they will be helpful in resolving.
Ribeye have a good reputation for customer support

tonymac · 05 September 2009, 09:40

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Originally Posted by Leapy

Yes, take it back to Ribeye and have them fix it by altering the trailer and repairing the damage to the hull.

Your comments read as if you bought the boat new from them or their agent, presumably as a package of boat and trailer? If so, then you've a right to expect the boat to come on and off the trailer without gouging the hull

If it was mine, I wouldn't be doing the work myself and I'd expect them to fix it and quick!

Fully agree! Get it back to them and complain - you did not cause the problem!

BrAinZ · 05 September 2009, 19:51

Will give them a ring on Monday to see what they say.

What's confused me though is that the Ribeye S650 is probably one of the most common ribs out there (not sure if that's good or bad!!), so I really don't understand how they can get it wrong?

Surely if this rib/trailer combo was at fault (which it must be), then how come no one else seems to have had this problem?

Yesterday I tried putting some pipe insulation on top of the centre axles, but the boat appeared to even nudge that out of the way and took another small chunk out of the hull

Really starting to annoy me now!

Leapy · 05 September 2009, 20:44

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Originally Posted by BrAinZ

how come no one else seems to have had this problem?

It's either a one-off (of which there's no such thing) or you haven't sight of the experiences of all the other hundreds of Ribeye users, only a small percentage of which are probably active in this forum.

Jonny H · 05 September 2009, 21:51

years ago me and my dad bought a second hand Glastron and I was out one day on the sea and it broke up in the bow, the water came rushing in and we limped it back. When we got it out of the water there was a big crack on both sides of the bow.
The Glastron dealer at that time was Roger Clarke Marine in our home town and we took it down to show him and they agreed to fix it they split the hull and deck and strengthened the bow even though we bought it second hand after that the transom came loose and floor all cracked up and then we decided to get a proper boat built for the job so we looked at Rings Phantoms and Marshans and went for a marshan 162

neilda · 06 September 2009, 11:03

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Originally Posted by BrAinZ

Surely if this rib/trailer combo was at fault (which it must be), then how come no one else seems to have had this problem?

Yesterday I tried putting some pipe insulation on top of the centre axles, but the boat appeared to even nudge that out of the way and took another small chunk out of the hull

I don't use a trailer so have nought to contribute - however is there a recommended trailer angle for recovering or launching the RIB and are you within those guidelines?

Tim M · 06 September 2009, 18:41

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Originally Posted by DizzyLizzy

I'm having the same problem with my Ballistic on a Rollercoaster trailer - i.e the bottom of the keel is hitting the axle before it is lifted by the front rollers. I've tried a keel roller on the axle but it ends up being too high and almost all the boat's weight ends up on it and chews up the roller

. I'm now trying an extra cross-member with lower side rollers just in front of the axle - I'll try and post picies tomorrow of what I'm trying in case it helps.
Trevor

That doesnt sound right to me. Got a pic?

BrAinZ · 06 September 2009, 19:27

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Originally Posted by neilda

however is there a recommended trailer angle for recovering or launching the RIB and are you within those guidelines?

I've just checked through all my Owners Manual, trailer instructions etc, and I can't find anything that specifies angle limits.

Where have you got that info from?

neilda · 07 September 2009, 07:39

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Originally Posted by BrAinZ

I've just checked through all my Owners Manual, trailer instructions etc, and I can't find anything that specifies angle limits.

Where have you got that info from?

Wot I writ woz 'is there a recommended trailer angle'? A kwestshun!

BrAinZ · 07 September 2009, 20:10

Oh yeah.. Good Point

You'll have to excuse my IOW stupidity

So..... No.... The manual doesn't specify any slipway angle limits.

Wonder what the "average" angle of a typical slipway is anyway?

Not sure if it's relevant, but the slipway that Ribeye themselves use in Dartmouth is VERY shallow compared to anything else I've seen/used anywhere else.

codprawn · 07 September 2009, 21:49

Too steep a slip will cause the bow to hit the front post with the stern still afloat - you then have to drive forward and try to get it to settle properly on the rollers.

To shallow and you have problems getting it on there at all.

To protect the hull I have seen the cross beams wrapped in carpet etc but I think a better solution would be square section gutter pipe or similar slipped over the cross beams and cable tied or screwed into place.

Cookee · 08 September 2009, 07:38

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Too steep a slip will cause the bow to hit the front post with the stern still afloat - you then have to drive forward and try to get it to settle properly on the rollers.

To shallow and you have problems getting it on there at all.

To protect the hull I have seen the cross beams wrapped in carpet etc but I think a better solution would be square section gutter pipe or similar slipped over the cross beams and cable tied or screwed into place.

RUBBISH! Fix the problem!

I have never had a trailer that needed padding, and if you look at any trailers you will be hard pushed to find one that has any - if it is set up properly you won't need it!

This trailer is rigged badly if the boat is hitting the frame of the trailer, the rollers need to be adjusted before any more use!

codprawn · 08 September 2009, 12:48

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Originally Posted by Cookee

RUBBISH! Fix the problem!

I have never had a trailer that needed padding, and if you look at any trailers you will be hard pushed to find one that has any - if it is set up properly you won't need it!

This trailer is rigged badly if the boat is hitting the frame of the trailer, the rollers need to be adjusted before any more use!

If you are using a trailer with boat that has never been on it before it makes sense to try to protect it.

I was speaking generally - not about this specific case. It does NOT hurt to put some padding on a trailer until you are sure it is set up just right which is exactly what I will be doing with my new trailer - how can i set it up right when the boat is still in the water?

Cookee · 08 September 2009, 13:04

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Originally Posted by codprawn

If you are using a trailer with boat that has never been on it before it makes sense to try to protect it.

I was speaking generally - not about this specific case. It does NOT hurt to put some padding on a trailer until you are sure it is set up just right which is exactly what I will be doing with my new trailer - how can i set it up right when the boat is still in the water?

BrAinZ · 08 September 2009, 20:14

The obvious thing is to have a third set of rollers across the twin axles in the centre of the trailer.

But should it really need this for a 6.5m rib?

How many sets of rollers do most 6.5m ribs have on their trailers?

Leapy · 09 September 2009, 04:53

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Originally Posted by BrAinZ

The obvious thing is to have a third set of rollers across the twin axles in the centre of the trailer.

But should it really need this for a 6.5m rib?

How many sets of rollers do most 6.5m ribs have on their trailers?

The obvious thing is to get Ribeye to sort it out.

Jizm · 09 September 2009, 06:26

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Originally Posted by Leapy

The obvious thing is to get Ribeye to sort it out.

Indeed....

BrAinZ · 09 September 2009, 08:13

Yes, I'm on the case with that.

Just wondering what the solution will be though, as without something else to keep the hull up, it's always going to hit the middle axles.

Leapy · 09 September 2009, 09:59

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Originally Posted by BrAinZ

Yes, I'm on the case with that.

Just wondering what the solution will be though, as without something else to keep the hull up, it's always going to hit the middle axles.

I think the point several of us are making is that you should focus on the problem and who's responsible for fixing it rather than keep inventing different solutions.

I hope you're going to go back to Ribeye and ask them to fix the problem and that you'll avoid telling them how. The problem and its resolution should be with them. Better that than have them work to your instruction which then either doesn't fix it or has other issues of itself. Who's responsible then?