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Old 05 June 2024, 18:05   #41
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make sure its had the oil pump recall done and you need to make provision for it to be replaced again at some point they dont last long . there is a global issue with the vane type oil pump failing and destroying engines. other than that there a nice van
Is that' why the wet belt fails?

Nice looking van, what's the plan, a day van, cooker , fridge?
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Old 05 June 2024, 22:03   #42
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Is that' why the wet belt fails?

Nice looking van, what's the plan, a day van, cooker , fridge?
Mine has not got a Wet Belt.

Plan is as a vehicle to slot in between our Motor Home and Landrover Discovery as a vehicle that can carry a lot and also tow a decent load. We will do a modest conversion but that will be very basic.

To be honest I have always wanted one and wanted a new Project
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Old 06 June 2024, 05:47   #43
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Is that' why the wet belt fails?

Nice looking van, what's the plan, a day van, cooker , fridge?
no the 2.2 has no wet belt .ford used a vane type oil pump in a bid to reduce mpg the theory was it took less of the engines power to drive it than a geared pump a geared pump puts constant load on the engine but the vane pump the load varies with rpm .anyway the vanes wear and start to move about in the slots until one of the slots breaks jams the pump and zero oil pressure is fatal. fords answer officially for the transit its best seller was an up rated pump then inspection and change as required .the other vehicles that they sold with this fault the ranger ect they wouldn't admit it was an issue .it is if you own one that goes bang . interestingly fiat and Peugeot also use a variant on this engine that uses a geared oil pump they have zero issues in this area and there is a healthy trade in garages changing the fords vane pump to the Peugeot geared pump
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no the 2.2 has no wet belt .ford used a vane type oil pump in a bid to reduce mpg the theory was it took less of the engines power to drive it than a geared pump a geared pump puts constant load on the engine but the vane pump the load varies with rpm .anyway the vanes wear and start to move about in the slots until one of the slots breaks jams the pump and zero oil pressure is fatal. fords answer officially for the transit its best seller was an up rated pump then inspection and change as required .the other vehicles that they sold with this fault the ranger ect they wouldn't admit it was an issue .it is if you own one that goes bang . interestingly fiat and Peugeot also use a variant on this engine that uses a geared oil pump they have zero issues in this area and there is a healthy trade in garages changing the fords vane pump to the Peugeot geared pump
Many thanks I will certainly look into that info. We are picking the van up in an Hour
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Old 06 June 2024, 08:52   #45
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no the 2.2 has no wet belt .ford used a vane type oil pump in a bid to reduce mpg the theory was it took less of the engines power to drive it than a geared pump a geared pump puts constant load on the engine but the vane pump the load varies with rpm .anyway the vanes wear and start to move about in the slots until one of the slots breaks jams the pump and zero oil pressure is fatal. fords answer officially for the transit its best seller was an up rated pump then inspection and change as required .the other vehicles that they sold with this fault the ranger ect they wouldn't admit it was an issue .it is if you own one that goes bang . interestingly fiat and Peugeot also use a variant on this engine that uses a geared oil pump they have zero issues in this area and there is a healthy trade in garages changing the fords vane pump to the Peugeot geared pump
Thats interesting ,a friend of mine had 3 engines in a ranger owned from new in 6 years ! i just thought he was a bit slow !
was that a mazda tie up !
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Old 06 June 2024, 11:52   #46
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Thats interesting ,a friend of mine had 3 engines in a ranger owned from new in 6 years ! i just thought he was a bit slow !
was that a mazda tie up !
the mazda tie up was the rangers up to 2005 had mazda engines then 2005 - 2011 had ford 2.5 duratorque engines both mazda b2500 and ford ranger up to 2011 were badge engineered ie same vehicle different badges 2012 on were pure ford well not exactly the 2.2 engine is a psa unit made in collaboration with peugeot and citreon and used in everything from fiat ducatos to citreon relay peugeot partner even landrover defender puma
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Picked the van up. Very pleased indeed

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That does look like a very nice clean van for the age, compared to some I've looked at!
Even more recent models are often abused, rusty, and rough looking cosmetically.
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the mazda tie up was the rangers up to 2005 had mazda engines then 2005 - 2011 had ford 2.5 duratorque engines both mazda b2500 and ford ranger up to 2011 were badge engineered ie same vehicle different badges 2012 on were pure ford well not exactly the 2.2 engine is a psa unit made in collaboration with peugeot and citreon and used in everything from fiat ducatos to citreon relay peugeot partner even landrover defender puma
Hi beerbelly, are Ford still using the same vane oil pump in the Ranger or have they changed it? If so when?
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no the 2.2 has no wet belt .ford used a vane type oil pump in a bid to reduce mpg the theory was it took less of the engines power to drive it than a geared pump a geared pump puts constant load on the engine but the vane pump the load varies with rpm .anyway the vanes wear and start to move about in the slots until one of the slots breaks jams the pump and zero oil pressure is fatal. fords answer officially for the transit its best seller was an up rated pump then inspection and change as required .the other vehicles that they sold with this fault the ranger ect they wouldn't admit it was an issue .it is if you own one that goes bang . interestingly fiat and Peugeot also use a variant on this engine that uses a geared oil pump they have zero issues in this area and there is a healthy trade in garages changing the fords vane pump to the Peugeot geared pump
I know not not directly boat related, but an interesting read all the same.

Looking at getting a couple of years old medium to long wheelbase van as my only “car” with similar ideas as dennis in using it as a basic camper, but also my daily drive.
But I have noticed many relatively new, average miles motors advertised with new engines, gearboxes etc
Which is quite worrying with the kind of money we would be spending, and because we are tied to automatic, even more so.

Any knowledge and opinions is always helpful
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I know not not directly boat related, but an interesting read all the same.

Looking at getting a couple of years old medium to long wheelbase van as my only ďcarĒ with similar ideas as dennis in using it as a basic camper, but also my daily drive.
But I have noticed many relatively new, average miles motors advertised with new engines, gearboxes etc
Which is quite worrying with the kind of money we would be spending, and because we are tied to automatic, even more so.

Any knowledge and opinions is always helpful
If you need to tow boats an Automatic Van very often has a limited weight that it can tow so keep an eye on this one.

I think many of the new engine vans might have been ones with the wet belt that caused the engine to fail and need replacing. But I am not sure others will I am sure know better on this one
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Hi beerbelly, are Ford still using the same vane oil pump in the Ranger or have they changed it? If so when?
im not sure on the brand new shape thats just come out but if you google it theirs plenty online and a facebook group set up to recommend garages allover the country who carry out the conversion to geared pump
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Got the Bulkhead out. That has made a huge difference. I can now get the seat back further and more tilt. Much lighter in the back also.

Gonna keep it if I ever want to put it back in

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