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Old 05 August 2009, 06:23   #1
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Cheapest hub assembly

Where's the cheapest for 2 hub assembly's? Think they are a 4" PCD.

Just took my trailer to get new tyres fitted and when they took the wheels off the hubs don't look to clever. Plus both grease nipples have broke off. Told the fitters that they where fine before I left the trailer with them but they are having non of it. Obviously they haven't lined the cut out in the rim with the nipple and forced the rim on and when they have realised they have fitted the rim in the right way Argued with them about it for a bit but I got no where fast.
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cant you replace the nipples? theyre a couple of pence at a motorfactors. remove the old ones with an easyout or tap the tang of a file in the center and unscrew it. theyre not usually tight.
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cant you replace the nipples? theyre a couple of pence at a motorfactors. remove the old ones with an easyout or tap the tang of a file in the center and unscrew it. theyre not usually tight.
Could do with new hubs anyway mate.

Just been looking at replacing the hubs and suspension as well. But I'm a little lost. The suspension arm on my axle goes inside the axle but all the suspensions and hub ass I've seen for sale look like they bolt onto the axle?
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hayling trailers I use, £20 notes all in 2 x bearings and new hub assembly per side
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sounds like you have an "avonride" type axle where the rubber suspension material is pressed into the axle tube, rather than the bolt on units like indespension. You either need to replace the whole axle assembly, or source some hubs for the axle from the manufacturer. The hub being just the bit that rotates and houses the bearings, rather than the complete suspension and hub you talk of with six bolts to mount to the axle.

whats wrong with the hubs? are they really rusty or will you get away with chipping the rust off and giving them a coat of paint?
As long as the structural integrity is OK, wheel studs OK and you can keep seals in i wouldnt worry too much about surface rust, or are they fekkt?
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sounds like you have an "avonride" type axle where the rubber suspension material is pressed into the axle tube, rather than the bolt on units like indespension. You either need to replace the whole axle assembly, or source some hubs for the axle from the manufacturer. The hub being just the bit that rotates and houses the bearings, rather than the complete suspension and hub you talk of with six bolts to mount to the axle.

whats wrong with the hubs? are they really rusty or will you get away with chipping the rust off and giving them a coat of paint?
As long as the structural integrity is OK, wheel studs OK and you can keep seals in i wouldnt worry too much about surface rust, or are they fekkt?

Thanks for the info lads.
The hubs aren't totally frigged but can see them going (my luck dictates it will happen at 60mph in the middle of no where) so may as well get new ones. Picking a pair up tonight. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...:X:RTQ:GB:1123
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As long as the seal track is good on your stub axle is OK then thats a good solution(assuming theyre the right ones)
Plenty of grease Mate! handfulls of the stuff. I have heared people claim too much grease will overheat the bearing and cause bearing failure/fire.
all i can say to that is theyr'e probably the same tossers who do up the nut in the middle tight too.............
I have never stripped my bearings and i dont have bearing savers either,
I blocked the holes in the hup caps and fitted grease nipples as i didn't have them, every time I take the boat out I pump a couple pumps of grease into the hubs to keep them full and stop water getting in.
i guess if you went mad you could blow the seal out the back but i never have.
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They seem the right ones, 4" PCD with 1" taper.
I've got bearing buddies on my hubs. Never fitted them before. Before my hammer comes out, how are they fixed in and how do they come out?

DG, if I can't get them back on I'll go with your solution

Haven't done bearings for 10 years. Wait for the...What have I done wrong thread
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i assume they just tap on the same way the hub cap would?

dont know i dont have them

If in doubt, give it a clout! (side to side with a soft face mallet see if they rock out)
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They seem the right ones, 4" PCD with 1" taper.
I've got bearing buddies on my hubs. Never fitted them before. Before my hammer comes out, how are they fixed in and how do they come out?
Press fit. Usually inserted about 1/4" or so.

Plastic mallet will work fine. Or a regular hammer and a block of wood. Or just a hammer. Work around the BB at 90 degree intervals, and it should take you about 10 seconds per piece.

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Press fit. Usually inserted about 1/4" or so.

Plastic mallet will work fine. Or a regular hammer and a block of wood. Or just a hammer. Work around the BB at 90 degree intervals, and it should take you about 10 seconds per piece.

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10 seconds??? this is john were talking about here, he will probably get side tracked by some bit of stuff walking past, then end up breaking a finger or having a funny turn. the job may be finished in time for the searider gathering in Oct if were lucky
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10 seconds??? this is john were talking about here, he will probably get side tracked by some bit of stuff walking past, then end up breaking a finger or having a funny turn. the job may be finished in time for the searider gathering in Oct if were lucky
I take great a fence at that
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Press fit. Usually inserted about 1/4" or so.

Plastic mallet will work fine. Or a regular hammer and a block of wood. Or just a hammer. Work around the BB at 90 degree intervals, and it should take you about 10 seconds per piece.

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Thanks JKY, take no notice of DG. From Gloucestershire you know......6 fingers, banjo players...
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Thanks JKY, take no notice of DG. From Gloucestershire you know......6 fingers, banjo players...
firstly its DP not DG.
secondly I am not from gloucestershire.

I am from Wales and am moving back there next saturday!!

Re six fingers......its true the wife is a midwife and there are a significant number of babies born with six fingers in the forest of dean
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firstly its DP not DG.
secondly I am not from gloucestershire.

I am from Wales and am moving back there next saturday!!

Re six fingers......its true the wife is a midwife and there are a significant number of babies born with six fingers in the forest of dean
DG sounds better lol

Your joking? Brothers mother inlaw to be lives in gloucestershire, explains allot
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Where's the cheapest for 2 hub assembly's? Think they are a 4" PCD.

Just took my trailer to get new tyres fitted and when they took the wheels off the hubs don't look to clever. Plus both grease nipples have broke off. Told the fitters that they where fine before I left the trailer with them but they are having non of it. Obviously they haven't lined the cut out in the rim with the nipple and forced the rim on and when they have realised they have fitted the rim in the right way Argued with them about it for a bit but I got no where fast.
Got mine from ebay, under £20 inc delivery....

I have to remove the nipple to get the wheels on and off either way despite the cutout in the wheels.
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Fitted the hubs today, both sides done in no time. Can highly recommend these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...:X:RTQ:GB:1123 Nice old bloke trying to make a few quid to boost his pension.

Only thing is, bloody bearing buddies don't fit the new hubs. Never straight forward is it?
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Got mine from ebay, under £20 inc delivery....

I have to remove the nipple to get the wheels on and off either way despite the cutout in the wheels.
Yeah, got the same problem. Going to make the cut out a wee bit bigger with the dremel.
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I am from Wales and am moving back there next saturday!!
A great day fo you I'm looking forward to doing it myself one day
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