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Old 09 September 2020, 11:11   #1
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5t trailer on a 50mm ball?

Been looking for a trailer, saw this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283999341146

Advertised as 5000kg but on 50mm ball hitch? Limited to 3500kg could it be 5000kg with a different hitch or would it need active brakes or air or similar not just over run? Even if a ring hitch was fitted?
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Been looking for a trailer, saw this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283999341146

Advertised as 5000kg but on 50mm ball hitch? Limited to 3500kg could it be 5000kg with a different hitch or would it need active brakes or air or similar not just over run? Even if a ring hitch was fitted?


You can get 5t rated ball hitches.
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Yes, I think Bradley do a 5 tonne rated one that is both ball and pin.
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That chassis is from a super roller coaster. Even if it’s a 10 it’s still only 3500kg gross. Worrying thing it’s a towbar fitting van in the picture.
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You can get 5t rated ball hitches.
Really can you? On over run brakes?
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Totally. Nobody's saying it's legal to tow 5T on the road with overrun brakes, just that you can buy a 5T rated hitch.

Here you go : Toller Trailers
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5t trailer on a 50mm ball?

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Really can you? On over run brakes?


Completely different criteria. The towball is rated at 5t. That is the physical spec of the ball. Whatís attached to it is a different kettle of lobsters.

https://www.trailparts.co.uk/Product...s--spares/TP07
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Just as a random comment, I prefer Bradley hitches over the Dixon Bate ones.
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Completely different criteria. The towball is rated at 5t. That is the physical spec of the ball. Whatís attached to it is a different kettle of lobsters.

https://www.trailparts.co.uk/Product...s--spares/TP07
Ok so kettle of lobsters is whatís is the U.K./eu max gross weight of a trailer connected to a 50mm ball..... the ball can be rated to 20t doesnít mean you can tow a 20t trailer on a ball....
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On a public highway. With overrun brakes.
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Looks like a tarted up piece of shit to me definitely not legal to tow 5000kg on the road and definitely not worth the asking price
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Ok so kettle of lobsters is whatís is the U.K./eu max gross weight of a trailer connected to a 50mm ball..... the ball can be rated to 20t doesnít mean you can tow a 20t trailer on a ball....


If the ball is rated at 5t, you can hang a 5t load on it. I think weíre at odds here with the rating of the ball & the capacity of the trailer/towing vehicle. I was answering your query re. The capacity of hitches. I.e. yes you can buy hitches rated at +3.5t.
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I've a 2600kg twin axle trailer coming for sale next week. New bearings, brakes, brake cables and tyres this week. No rust on it at all. 100% waxoiled. 100% road legal providing it isnt overloaded!
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Completely different criteria. The towball is rated at 5t. That is the physical spec of the ball. Whatís attached to it is a different kettle of lobsters.

https://www.trailparts.co.uk/Product...s--spares/TP07
Think you'll find thats 5t on the yoke not the ball all uk trailers over 3.5t use ring and pin hitches
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That thing is shonky beyond belief! Someone’s gone mad with galv spray paint if you look closely.
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I've a 2600kg twin axle trailer coming for sale next week. New bearings, brakes, brake cables and tyres this week. No rust on it at all. 100% waxoiled. 100% road legal providing it isnt overloaded!
Thanks bigger than I need, a mate just bought a similar one for a cruiser he purchased wow that thing is huge!

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If the ball is rated at 5t, you can hang a 5t load on it. I think we’re at odds here with the rating of the ball & the capacity of the trailer/towing vehicle. I was answering your query re. The capacity of hitches. I.e. yes you can buy hitches rated at +3.5t.
Don’t care if you can buy them care if they are legal to use on UK roads
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>>>shonky beyond belief! Someone’s gone mad with galv spray paint

I've properly rebuilt a few trailers in my time and that looks a right bodge. Painted with a lack of care that might suit a £350 trailer not one over £3500. Too lazy to take off the timber and 1960s carpet before painting too.
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Agreed. Last one I redid was shotblast and new galv.
Worked out relatively cheap and came back looking properly like new.
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Different country, different laws. Even different laws in between our states.

Rated at 5,000Kgs I assume that means over the wheels, not on the towball.
It is hitched up to a car and the jockey wheel is only above the ground. And the jockey wheel looks light.

Understandably you have more weight at the front of the trailer, but those wheels look a tad too far to the rear, moving them forward would reduce the weight on the towball.

Anyway the trailer does look weird.
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Different country, different laws. Even different laws in between our states.

Rated at 5,000Kgs I assume that means over the wheels, not on the towball.
It is hitched up to a car and the jockey wheel is only above the ground. And the jockey wheel looks.
5000kg would be the gross weight, but on our roads the max trailer on a ball type coupling is 3500kg also the max trailer weight on over run brakes is 3500kg the hitch mechanism may be 5000kg max or the axles may both be 2500kg axles but no way is that road legal in the U.K. at 5000kg gross even if you had a tractor unit up front .......
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