Zip up your anorak and waffle on about Land Rovers... - Page 5

mister p · 19 January 2013, 21:12

The reason sales are up is because China is buying LandRovers because they're British......Not because they're any good.
Does anybody wear a Barbour or Belstaff wax cotton when on the water?

Bigmuz7 · 19 January 2013, 21:19

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I had a maxi

My dad loved them ... his fave colour was mustard yellow ... it went with his flares .. dude how old are you ?

jumpinjack · 19 January 2013, 22:11

Saw this a while back, a pissed off owner had his car stickered up and parked outside the dealers!

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HUMBER P4VWL · 19 January 2013, 23:08

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Originally Posted by paulbryson75

Saw this a while back, a pissed off owner had his car stickered up and parked outside the dealers!

Now that's great!

kerny · 19 January 2013, 23:25

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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

Now that's great!

Seconded

Mollers · 19 January 2013, 23:56

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Originally Posted by mister p

The reason sales are up is because China is buying LandRovers because they're British...

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

tonto · 20 January 2013, 00:31

Most of the people who are against the Landy badge, Appear not to own one, and by some comments have not owned one for some time, so do not really appreciate that they are basically a reasonable good vehicle, and the problems in the past have gone a long way to being solved.

How many of them would buy a Skoda I wonder (Or Volkswagon?)

The added advantage of the defender (indeed many models) is that they are relatively easy to work on, and not too complex, and many people with a few tools and common sense can do most of the servicing work themselves. plus there are many forums for people to ask help and advice on routine servicing/maintenence.

At least i am supporting a British made vehicle. The parent company may not be British, but the factory, workers and jobs are, and I am proud to support them, just as I am proud to drive a British made rib.

Leapy · 20 January 2013, 06:43

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Originally Posted by mister p

The reason sales are up is because China is buying LandRovers because they're British......Not because they're any good.
Does anybody wear a Barbour or Belstaff wax cotton when on the water?

Your insight on LR is phenomenal. As in, off the scale.

Following this through then, have you advised LR as to when the bubble is going to burst? Only, they're investing billions in new models, building a new assembly plant over there and employing another 800 staff at Solihull as we speak. It'd be such a waste if it all went tits up overnight as you predict.

Barbour's and Belstaff's? Much too clever for me, son. Having got a f***ing clue what you're talking about.

PS: I'm offering you two pints now. One for your help with my serious condition of where-am-I-going-wrong-as-a-happy-LR-customer and another whilst you share your broader LR insight with me so I can earn a big fat consultancy fee from them. Hope to hear from soon

Bigmuz7 · 20 January 2013, 08:49

Working on range rover sport - PassionFord

Anchorhandler · 20 January 2013, 09:09

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Originally Posted by tonto

Most of the people who are against the Landy badge, Appear not to own one, and by some comments have not owned one for some time, so do not really appreciate that they are basically a reasonable good vehicle, and the problems in the past have gone a long way to being solved.

How many of them would buy a Skoda I wonder (Or Volkswagon?)

The added advantage of the defender (indeed many models) is that they are relatively easy to work on, and not too complex, and many people with a few tools and common sense can do most of the servicing work themselves. plus there are many forums for people to ask help and advice on routine servicing/maintenence.

At least i am supporting a British made vehicle. The parent company may not be British, but the factory, workers and jobs are, and I am proud to support them, just as I am proud to drive a British made rib.

True and yes i admit to being guilty of this.... Although i have owned many LR's, the last one we bought was a 2004 D2 back in 2006.

I trust Parkers review of any vehicle i consider purchasing and they sem quite complimentary of the D3/4.....

New Land Rover Discovery (04 on) Car Review - Safety & Reliability | Parkers

Time for me to drop my prejudices perhaps?....

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Originally Posted by Leapy

Your insight on LR is phenomenal. As in, off the scale.

Following this through then, have you advised LR as to when the bubble is going to burst? Only, they're investing billions in new models, building a new assembly plant over there and employing another 800 staff at Solihull as we speak. It'd be such a waste if it all went tits up overnight as you predict.

Barbour's and Belstaff's? Much too clever for me, son. Having got a f***ing clue what you're talking about.

PS: I'm offering you two pints now. One for your help with my serious condition of where-am-I-going-wrong-as-a-happy-LR-customer and another whilst you share your broader LR insight with me so I can earn a big fat consultancy fee from them. Hope to hear from soon

Jeez Leapy.....Perhaps a touch of sarcasm may help you better convey your point...

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Let's face it, The Discovery started out as a BL parts bin exercise. LR is a whole different beast now.

yep, as quoted by Parker's in their review...

The Defender review on Autocar is another story though....

Simon

Anchorhandler · 20 January 2013, 09:18

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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

Working on range rover sport - PassionFord

Holy S**t.....

You have to take the body off the D4 to change a turbo

Best get a cast iron warranty if your considering buying second hand then?

Simon

Leapy · 20 January 2013, 13:32

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Originally Posted by Anchorhandler

Jeez Leapy.....Perhaps a touch of sarcasm may help you better convey your point...

I thought I'd got it about right actually. More crap, more sarcasm

mick · 20 January 2013, 15:03

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yea thats why yesterday i passed 2 BMW being towed

wish i had been quick enough to take a picture

Not getting into this reliability argument again buy what you want they all brake down sometimes but I have been up in the Peak District this weekend with Disco3 .co.uk must av been a mix of 12 D3 & D 4 plus an odd couple of Defeners and no one broke down the only lane we didn't manage was up steep quarry slope that was like sheet ice. But we did see some muppets out in BM and a merc ml came through a hedge in front of us.
http://youtu.be/xXLaw3TV9Mc

tony t · 20 January 2013, 16:06

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Seconded

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mister p · 20 January 2013, 17:50

Some break more than others.
+1

mick · 20 January 2013, 20:13

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Originally Posted by paulbryson75

Saw this a while back, a pissed off owner had his car stickered up and parked outside the dealers!

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I think this was in Colchester a few years back but there was another side to the story if its the same one.

mister p · 20 January 2013, 21:25

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Originally Posted by Mollers

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah yeah yeah..............wake up and wait for the bubble to burst.

800 new jobs in UK......while new factory is being built in China to fulfil Chinese orders. When factory is finished I reckon they'll use Chinese workers........and the Indian ( Asian ) owned Land Rover will hop skip and jump to new facilities in China.

Or they'll stay loyal to their UK workforce just like every other world brand and reintroduce production to Coventry?

mister p · 20 January 2013, 21:35

Triumph have moved production to China.
Jag are making over 70% of their stuff in China, Bentley are surviving because of a new chinese market, Aston are in the shit because they have done nothing in China.
Look at the boat market.........in the US, 90% of US sales are from US manufacturers, 80% of those are in Florida.
That looks like a market on the edge of implosion.
They can not shift product.
LandRover need to wake up to competition and not rely on the Brit wave. It will dump them in the sh*t, Posh Spice or not.
They need a watertight product that is not falling back upon warranty claims.
The reason Honda had no warranty claims on their S2000 V-Tech is that they replaced engines during routine service without notifying the owner until after the service.
It became a service item and didn't damage their 100% reliability record.

mister p · 20 January 2013, 21:37

Straying away from the OP, granted.

Bigmuz7 · 20 January 2013, 21:37

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Originally Posted by mister p

Yeah yeah yeah..............wake up and wait for the bubble to burst.

800 new jobs in UK......while new factory is being built in China to fulfil Chinese orders. When factory is finished I reckon they'll use Chinese workers........and the Indian ( Asian ) owned Land Rover will hop skip and jump to new facilities in China.

Or they'll stay loyal to their UK workforce just like every other world brand and reintroduce production to Coventry?

I think thats a very valid point

they take our incentives .. then boot us in the groin when it suits them