What car is this? - Page 2

tinker · 09 May 2009, 09:25

I have two VW 1.9 tdi's one runs at 180 hp the other about the same. They do around 35-40 mpg around town, motorway runs i get 60mpg. If i get heavy footed then it will drop to about 30 mpg. The torque produced is the real seller, any speed and most gears I can just floor it and it goes like a train.

The jaguar is a real move away from the classic jag shapes, still all alloy bonded with rivets and glue making it very light, it will also come with a panoramic roof, nice. The diesels are ok but the real one to watch will be the 5L XJR, very fast. All subject to the company making it through these hard times....

Mollers · 09 May 2009, 09:36

Do 4x4's come in manual?

If so, I wouldn't want one.

With 3.5t on the back you don't wanna be trying to grab 2nd and having to slip the clutch.

codprawn · 09 May 2009, 16:09

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Originally Posted by tinker

I have two VW 1.9 tdi's one runs at 180 hp the other about the same. They do around 35-40 mpg around town, motorway runs i get 60mpg. If i get heavy footed then it will drop to about 30 mpg. The torque produced is the real seller, any speed and most gears I can just floor it and it goes like a train.

The jaguar is a real move away from the classic jag shapes, still all alloy bonded with rivets and glue making it very light, it will also come with a panoramic roof, nice. The diesels are ok but the real one to watch will be the 5L XJR, very fast. All subject to the company making it through these hard times....

Is a panoramic roof such a good idea? What about in an accident? I have been upside down in a car - it's not funny - thank God it didn't have a glass roof!!!

I have seen plenty of cars where things like trees or barriers have come down on them - the roof usually saves the passengers.

codprawn · 09 May 2009, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Mollers

Do 4x4's come in manual?

If so, I wouldn't want one.

With 3.5t on the back you don't wanna be trying to grab 2nd and having to slip the clutch.

Knowing how to drive helps a lot!!!

Auto boxes can overheat quite easily on steep hills when towing. I was suprised to learn that many 4x4 autos don't come with oil coolers as standard - things like the Volvo XC90 for example.

A manual gives you more control and engine braking. I know a bloke who does boat deliveries all over Europe - he uses a 110 manual and never has any trouble - 150,000 miles - mainly towing heavy loads - not bad!!!

Leapy · 09 May 2009, 16:18

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Auto boxes can overheat quite easily on steep hills when towing

Bummer. Just ordered a Disco Auto...I wonder if LR thought to test them when towing uphils

codprawn · 09 May 2009, 16:31

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Bummer. Just ordered a Disco Auto...I wonder if LR thought to test them when towing uphils

Don't be silly it's a LR - I was on about the other so called 4x4s!!! Haing said that the OLD Discovery auto wasn't up to much.......

I had a Discovery 2 for a while and it was great at towing but if you are hauling heavy loads a lot I would go for a manual. Mind you a heavy load to a LR is a lot. My Discovery tows 3.5 tons no problem - I have towed 5.5 tons but you knew the load was there - wouldn't have fancied that with an auto box!!!

Mollers · 09 May 2009, 17:06

Most auto boxes are 'adaptable' now, as well as tiptronic. They'll kick down on descent to give engine brake or in tiptronic, they'll do what ever you wish. I've never had a box get hot.

Leapy · 09 May 2009, 18:01

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Don't be silly it's a LR

Thank God for that...is was your generalisation that threw me

tinker · 09 May 2009, 19:05

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Is a panoramic roof such a good idea? What about in an accident? I have been upside down in a car - it's not funny - thank God it didn't have a glass roof!!!

I have seen plenty of cars where things like trees or barriers have come down on them - the roof usually saves the passengers.

I would suspect that the glass roof would offer more structural stiffness to the car than the alloy roofed model. The front and rear screens on Jaguar's offer a surprising amount of structure to the cars, driving one without the screen shows this up.

In the event of a roll over then passengers are protected by the A post's, B post's and the doors. The roof offers very little protection and consists of sheet steel and in the case of the XJ sheet alloy with a single strengthener.

codprawn · 09 May 2009, 20:38

When I did a somersault in a car I ended up on a rock - if it had been a glass roof I shudder to think what would have happened.

Also when a tree falls on a car often there are lots of bits sticking out - not just a smooth trunk.
And finally there have been too many cases of people lobbing bricks off bridges etc.

My mates Cayenne has such a roof and it's horrid - and it was stuck in the dealers for weeks when it stuck.

I hope it's an option???

codprawn · 09 May 2009, 20:40

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Originally Posted by tinker

I have two VW 1.9 tdi's one runs at 180 hp the other about the same. They do around 35-40 mpg around town, motorway runs i get 60mpg. If i get heavy footed then it will drop to about 30 mpg. The torque produced is the real seller, any speed and most gears I can just floor it and it goes like a train.

If you work for Jag why do you drive German cars - wouldn't it make more sense to protect your own jobs - just wondering???

and I didn't think the 1.9tdi was that sort of power..........

willk · 09 May 2009, 20:55

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And finally there have been too many cases of people lobbing bricks off bridges etc.

Don't tell Chicken Little about this. She's already in trauma worrying about shearing both her twin engines off on a floating log. It's a very dangerous world we live in. Theoretically.

codprawn · 09 May 2009, 21:17

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Don't tell Chicken Little about this. She's already in trauma worrying about shearing both her twin engines off on a floating log. It's a very dangerous world we live in. Theoretically.

I have seen it happen - my Defender is fine though - i still have the riot screen for it!!!

Bigmuz7 · 09 May 2009, 21:21

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I have seen it happen - my Defender is fine though - i still have the riot screen for it!!!

Aye .. I'd keep that handy If I were you Codders

mdt · 09 May 2009, 21:34

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and I didn't think the 1.9tdi was that sort of power..........

re-mapped they can..... uncle has got his up to around this with a new cam re-map and some head work... oh on motor number 2. good thing he runs garages...

tinker · 10 May 2009, 18:39

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Originally Posted by codprawn

If you work for Jag why do you drive German cars - wouldn't it make more sense to protect your own jobs - just wondering???

and I didn't think the 1.9tdi was that sort of power..........

I would love to be able to buy an English car, trouble is they are expensive or not good enough. I actually work for Jaguar and Land Rover, so I have a foot in both camps and both cars. It was great when Aston was also part of the group

The VW's are indeed remapped, from the same company that work for..... Had it done for 2 years with no problems, the VW TDI engine is built like a rock, well over engineered. The problem with remaps is that they are simple to do but also simple to get wrong. “Lets have 240hp for 10 minutes”

John Kennett · 10 May 2009, 21:35

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Knowing how to drive helps a lot!!!

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When I did a somersault in a car I ended up on a rock

Seemed rude to pass up a gift like that!

CJL · 10 May 2009, 22:36

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That's not right. My Father had that engine in a Hi-Top camper and could squeeze 42mpg out of it.

I regularly get 48mpg out of my 2wd A4 2.0ltr 170bhp. Your doing something really wrong there!

I have a plug in re-map system for my car and I actually get an increase in fuel economy but its not squared away with the insurance company and the car is still under warranty so I prefer not to use it. 170bhp is more than enough!

CJL

codprawn · 10 May 2009, 23:46

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Originally Posted by tinker

I would love to be able to buy an English car, trouble is they are expensive or not good enough. I actually work for Jaguar and Land Rover, so I have a foot in both camps and both cars. It was great when Aston was also part of the group

The VW's are indeed remapped, from the same company that work for..... Had it done for 2 years with no problems, the VW TDI engine is built like a rock, well over engineered. The problem with remaps is that they are simple to do but also simple to get wrong. “Lets have 240hp for 10 minutes”

I dunno - an X type is prob not that much more than a Passat. Don't you get a staff discount???

mdt · 11 May 2009, 06:23

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I dunno - an X type is prob not that much more than a Passat. Don't you get a staff discount???

ah but it costs quite a bit more than a Ford Mondao