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Old 24 July 2006, 16:49   #101
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I'm glad you like the D3, particularly as I was keen to like it when I was looking for a good tow car/family lugger/allround toy. I drove the D3, XC90, X5, Cayenne, RR Sport and a few others before buying my VW Touareg and I'm afraid that if you can't match anything to your D3 it's simply because you haven't driven much else. The Cayenne/Touareg is as capable off-road (unlike the XC90 and X5 and yes I have driven them off-road in comparison) and is FAR better on the road than all of them. Mine is also more economical than the D3 TD6, faster and better VFM (£10k more for the equivalent D3 spec and servicing costs of nearly double that of the VW despite VW dealers uplifting their prices for Touareg servicing). It ended up being a no-brainer!
Of course there's also personal preference to include in the above, and a small matter of seating, just how am I going to get 7 of us in a 5 seater? read my post again I think you'll see I mention 'all rounder' the D3 is a people carrier as well.
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and a small matter of seating, just how am I going to get 7 of us in
Buy a Landcruiser, 8 seats
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Do you not think it wise to get the oil changed?

Dicky boy-do it alll myself. Breaks/oil/electronics... costs so far 3 oil changes, filters/2 bulbs - under 100 quid. All 40000 miles with LPG.

Anyway , owe you one- had probs with one of my yams . Thanks to your detailed post some time ago had to change the water pump. Plate had buckled - giving bad circulation.

Bring you a crate of Duvel... one day soon I hope

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Now I'm hardly likely to listen to someone last seen doing an 18 stone impression of Michael Flatley tap dancing across Mollulnan beach at 60 mph am I?
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Old 24 July 2006, 18:14   #105
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Bring you a crate of Duvel... one day soon I hope
Cheers, that's generous of you... Duvel is one of my favorites.... ...and strong! Anyway, I'm glad you found the post useful and hope you're as happy with your Yams as you are with the Kia
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Now I'm hardly likely to listen to someone last seen doing an 18 stone impression of Michael Flatley tap dancing across Mollulnan beach at 60 mph am I?
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Being a little serious. Take the advice and buy a Landcruiser. Makes a LR look like a dried up, cracked turd. LRs' are becoming very popular in the US but are very unreliable. It's a status symbol thing resulting from promotions. Unless of course you can get an old one in good condition.
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Makes a LR look like a dried up, cracked turd.
D'oh... that's done it! You're really off Codprawn's Christmas card list now!
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I'm glad you like the D3, particularly as I was keen to like it when I was looking for a good tow car/family lugger/allround toy. I drove the D3, XC90, X5, Cayenne, RR Sport and a few others before buying my VW Touareg and I'm afraid that if you can't match anything to your D3 it's simply because you haven't driven much else. The Cayenne/Touareg is as capable off-road (unlike the XC90 and X5 and yes I have driven them off-road in comparison) and is FAR better on the road than all of them. Mine is also more economical than the D3 TD6, faster and better VFM (£10k more for the equivalent D3 spec and servicing costs of nearly double that of the VW despite VW dealers uplifting their prices for Touareg servicing). It ended up being a no-brainer!
I can assure you the Touareg is NOT as capable offroad as a Discovery. On road yes but not offroad. Just look at the low profile alloys for a start. They tend not to perform very well when the rims/sidewalls keep blowing!!!

It has almost no "axle" articulation either. It is all very well having fancy traction control but you are still better off having a few wheels on the ground.

We took a Touareg on a short section of the Roman road but decided to leave Gap road in the Beacons well alone. The Discovery romped them quite easily.

Which Toureg was it - the V10 - a mate has had a few of them lent to his company now and they ARE lovely on road but that's about it. Still want to see that engine in a RIB though!!!
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D'oh... that's done it! You're really off Codprawn's Christmas card list now!
Come off it - to a Yorkshireman a dried up turd is something to admire!!!
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We have had a similar experience except my husband was working for Land Rover and had to resign because he could no longer sell them to other people when we have an unsafe and undriveable car ( where the power steering and power brakes failed at the same time) which has spent 20 of its first 53 days undriveable and in the service centre. All that servicing doesnt include the issue that still remains with the issue mentioned above. Please can u give us some guidance on how to exert pressure as all our efforts, thus far, are falling on deaf ears. We dont want a replacement as we no longer trust them. They tried to blame us when the clutch disintegrated after only 4000kms even though we had brought it in 3 times about the clutch smell only to be told that Land Rover in England had said that this was normal for the manual transmission land rover discovery 3. We cant sell this vehicle and we cant drive this vehicle as who knows when the steering and power brakes will fails again. It is only an intermitent problem . LR admitted their top engineer was drving the manual for the same reason yet now they tell us it didnt happen at all
Have you any advise? We bought ours in Melbourne Australia at ULR

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So Gavin when are you going to start telling the World about problems with other 4x4s or SUVs???

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/autom...erra_misc.html

Took me about 2 seconds to find - maybe you keyboard is jammed or something and is incapable of typing plain English???

Do you realise you are in great danger of being labeled a TROLL??????
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This thread is about Landrover problems, the reason for it is , to highlight the danger and unreliability of them , this being particularly important to us , having boats to tow, and I am hoping by posting the truth, and these various links people will decide for themselves,

Keep the insults coming , it wont deflect from these flawed 4x4 s
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This thread is about Landrover problems, the reason for it is , to highlight the danger and unreliability of them , this being particularly important to us , having boats to tow, and I am hoping by posting the truth, and these various links people will decide for themselves,

Keep the insults coming , it wont deflect from these flawed 4x4 s
The thread is about Land Rover problems because YOU started it. Funnily enough those of us WITH Land Rovers don't seem to find them "DANGEROUS OR FLAWED"

Why do you take it upon yourself to attack Land Rovers so much?

Normally you come over as quite rational - if you can't see this fixation of yours as being a problem then you REALLY need help!!!
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What the heck is an Xterra?
Not a flipping clue - just some sort of bling Jap SUV the Yanks buy.

Just typed Nissan and Problems into Google. Never again though - unlike Gavin I can think of better things to do.
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So Gavin when are you going to start telling the World about problems with other 4x4s or SUVs???

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/autom...erra_misc.html

Took me about 2 seconds to find - maybe you keyboard is jammed or something and is incapable of typing plain English???

Do you realise you are in great danger of being labeled a TROLL??????
Oh!! Codders, you bit , hook , line and sinker. You usually do better than that!!!
Guess we should all keep Trolling knowing you will take the bait . How about a nice tasty anchovie??? Yum,Yum
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I can assure you the Touareg is NOT as capable offroad as a Discovery. On road yes but not offroad. Just look at the low profile alloys for a start. They tend not to perform very well when the rims/sidewalls keep blowing!!!

It has almost no "axle" articulation either. It is all very well having fancy traction control but you are still better off having a few wheels on the ground.

We took a Touareg on a short section of the Roman road but decided to leave Gap road in the Beacons well alone. The Discovery romped them quite easily.

Which Toureg was it - the V10 - a mate has had a few of them lent to his company now and they ARE lovely on road but that's about it. Still want to see that engine in a RIB though!!!

Having driven both extensively on various off-road surfaces, gradients and in a variety of conditions I'm afraid it is.
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Having driven both extensively on various off-road surfaces, gradients and in a variety of conditions I'm afraid it is.
Matter of opinion - you are welcome to join me for a foray across the Brecon Beacons anytime you like - quite how you will drive home again on buckled wheels and flat tyres is beyond me however.
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Guess we should all keep Trolling knowing you will take the bait . How about a nice tasty anchovie??? Yum,Yum
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You haven't been around long enough to know that Gavin is actually serious!!!
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