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Old 05 December 2010, 04:15   #1
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salvaging an aluminum boat

Howdy Gang,
Not a RIB but I figured you might be interested in this story
In late September our little valley in British Columbia had a flash flood.
Many houses damaged and a couple places got completely washed away.
My shop had water higher than the engine on my '57 VW bug project car.
Big muddy mess. Welders full of mud - diesel engine for our work boat apart and now junk.
My house was fine as we built the house with a large greenhouse on the south side and first floor 9ft up.
The greenhouse just got 3 ft of muddy water seap in and the plants didn't mind at all, just a few freezers died.

One family had their house and shop and a few large machines get washed into the raging water. They also had their 24ft. aluminum jet boat get washed off its trailer and down river about 10Km ending up in a log jam.
we heard about the boat and went looking for it. We found it in a log jam alright.
It sat for a month and half then I found the owner name and got in touch and got permission to salvage it.
We have spent the last few days cutting a path through all the downed trees
So far we move it to a better spot to jack it onto a trailer that I towed over with my Kubota 4x4 tractor. Sunday we will pull it out.
It has a V8 engine can't tell the make due to all the frozen mud in the engine room it has a Hamilton Jet and 11 hours on the Hobbs gauge. Sharp looking boat but I'd hate to feed it's habit of gas if I get it I'm pulling the V8 out and putting a Mercedes I 5 turbo diesel in .
that's my story and I'm sticking to it
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Old 05 December 2010, 08:20   #2
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Hank,

Good luck!

Am I misunderstanding that you plan to keep the boat? Does the owner not want it back? Has his insurance paid out - that would normally mean the insurer is now the owner of the wreck (at least in the UK)? My understanding of salvage law (which might be wrong or might be different over there) is that you would only be entitled to a payment for your efforts and not the boat itself.
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Old 06 December 2010, 17:53   #3
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Why not just get a lift helicopter to do the job for you?

I am very sure there are a few in your area capable of the task.

Sure would be very reasonable compared to all of the time that you will have into it.

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Old 07 December 2010, 01:19   #4
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Shouldn't be too heavy, should it?

Photo looks like it is right next to river, can it be refloated?
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Old 07 December 2010, 17:00   #5
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Salvage

Good luck on the salvage and cleaning it out.
How are you planing to remove the frozen mud?
Do you have a large shed that you can heat or are you goin to wait until the spring and let it thaw out on its own?

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Old 07 December 2010, 20:24   #6
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Helicopter would be a great way if it wasn't for the big bucks involved.
They are Heli logging in the next inlet over and do fly over once in a while.

Just after the flood a huge heli made many trips nearby to bringing the steel bridge components to be build to replace the wooden bridge that floated off its posts and closed off a road.

The boat has a lot of frozen mud and must have doubled the weight
so it would take a big helicopter. We used a 6 ton bottle jack to lift the boat and trailer and it worked but felt very heavy so we used a 20 ton jack and it moved easy.
We managed to get the boat on the trailer and snake them out of the many log jams. I was pushing with the tractor while the cat was towing and looked over at the 3 guys standing around smoking and nobody looking at all the wheels
We made it 100 m before twisting one of the axles so badly one wheel is now in a 45* angle. Enough for one day.
Next day we built and mounted a new HD axle using some strong steel we had.
The axles and tires from a wrecked newer GMC 1 ton truck.

We are now waiting for the Cat to start the tow in the boulders and sand section appox. 1/2km to the side road.
good adventure so far
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Old 07 December 2010, 20:33   #7
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As far as putting the boat back in the water and drifting down stream.
Thereis a ban on engines in the river and this one will not run for sometime.
impassable log jams just around the corner and no control with no power.
We felt the closest and easy route is the one we have taken. Could be wrong.

My shop will take the boat on the trailer and it is about 1km from where the boat is now. So I might have a inside job for the winter.
more photos soon
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Old 08 December 2010, 06:29   #8
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Hi Hank, good luck with the project, it looks interesting. I just noticed you are located at Bella Coola. I drove out there the summer before this past summer and launched my SIB at the Harbour. From there I went to the Eucott hot springs, then overnighted at Ocean Falls. What an amazing location!!! I bumped into a couple of guys from Iowa who had taken their truck by ferry to Ocean Falls, who then rented a fishing boat. They told me it was a 6 hour ferry ride (doesn't sound right). In any case they couldn't wrap there heads around the fact that I had zipped over there in a 16' SIB. The next day, I went over through Gunboat Channel to Bella Bella to refuel, then had lunch in Shearwater at this nice hotel that overlooked the harbour. It was a great trip, even if added an extra 2000 km of driving to my round trip from Winnipeg to Vancouver. My only regret was that the weather was drizzly during those 2 days, so my photos were not as nice as they might have been.
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As far as putting the boat back in the water and drifting down stream.
Thereis a ban on engines in the river
???

What was a power boat doing in the river then anyway? Or was it used to trailer to some other place?

Polwart has some good points about ultimate ownership and salvage laws; make sure you're not spending money to recover someone else's property.

It would make a great project, though, and the payoff would be pretty nice.

Luck;

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Old 09 December 2010, 13:47   #10
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"What was a power boat doing in the river then anyway? Or was it used to trailer to some other place?"

I'm not sure what the owners had in mind how/where to use the boat.
The boat has '08 Alaska registration.
It was on a trailer and the trailer is still in the river up by the site where their house was.
Looks like it was tied to the trailer but the bow cleats are ripped off.
One of their neighbours said they saw the jet boat being used in the river anyway.

It looks like the cost of repair will be quite high. Mud in engine and fuel tanks.
We are still waiting to get it off the river maybe today
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Is it on the Bella Coola River?
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Old 10 December 2010, 03:23   #12
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Is it on the Bella Coola River?
Roger that.
The boat was about 6km up river from the town of Bella Coola.
(prairie tuber next time you are in the area we should cross paths)

The freezing rain only slowed us down a little today.
Friend John showed up with his '62 TimberJack skidder and we struggled
every mm
but have the boat and what's left of the trailer just in front of my shop.
It was too icy to put the boat any closer.

We took 200 man hours to get it out but that is just what it took

We are going to build a shed around the boat to be able to work on it.
we will be talking with the owner this weekend and see what they want to do next.
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Doing salvage work I have acquired a few boats because I offer the owner the option to pay the bill or sign over the boat.

Once they get a quote on repairs and the salvage bill they really start to weigh the cost.

Was there an insurance company involved?

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Maybe I missed it but what is this boat used for?

Interesting railing and ladder on the stern. Might make a interesting dive boat.
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Looks cold up there...

Luck with the boat.

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Old 11 December 2010, 15:16   #16
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thanks guys it was a good adventure salvaging the boat
and nobody got hurt
I'll let you know what the owner has to say
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For those who don't know what these boats are all about

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Nice vid, Andy.



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Old 01 June 2011, 20:52   #20
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just an update

We reported the salvage to Transport Canada and the Receiver of Wrecks
on Feb.16 2011.
The owner didn't respond to TC / RoW letters on April 7 and May 19 2011
so the vessel was released to me in lieu of the salvage and storage expenses
on June 1 2011.

I'm sorry for the guys losses but he didn't show any interest in removing it from the river before we have another "high" water.

I'm going to hire a crane truck and flip the boat upside down and take a fire pump to get all the tons of mud and sticks out.
The 496cu in gas engine is coming out and we have a Nissan I-6 turbo diesel
to go in.

the adventure continues
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