Stand alone fuel flow meter/gauge ?

C-NUMB · 04 July 2011, 09:25

Tried to search the net but Navman/Northstar units seams to be discontinued /out of stock. Any other options available that I have missed?

Channel Ribs · 04 July 2011, 09:42

Lowrance do a fuel flow sensor, about 60 quid. There is a separate gauge for about 130, or you can network it.

Garmin also do a sensor.

C-NUMB · 04 July 2011, 10:06

Thanks. The new model's of Lowrance does not work without the network i believe, would just want to have the flow sensor and a simple gauge.
As not having a Garmin plotter, don't know how to get the readings out of the sensor?

Strangely tricky, everything seams to be integrated these days.

Channel Ribs · 04 July 2011, 10:31

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Originally Posted by C-NUMB

everything seams to be integrated these days.

Pretty much!

Both the Garmin and Lowrance sensors work via 2K networking, which sounds worse than it it. Two end caps (terminators) and a power lead is all that you would need to add to make it a one istrument one sensor network.

On the bright side, it will be future proof!

C-NUMB · 04 July 2011, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Channel Ribs

Pretty much!

Both the Garmin and Lowrance sensors work via 2K networking, which sounds worse than it it. Two end caps (terminators) and a power lead is all that you would need to add to make it a one istrument one sensor network.

On the bright side, it will be future proof!

Ok, thanks for clarifying, sounds reasonable. If the Lowrance gauge would also show depth, would go for it, but still need another gauge for that so still searching. If having a Lowrance plotter the situation would be different.

Found one option "http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|311|302335|302334|1018488&id=1620686" newer heard about Faria before, but as dollar is not that bad, a reasonable priced unit.

The bad thing with integrated system is that everything might goes down at the same moment if Your unlucky. But maybe i am only old fashion

Erin · 04 July 2011, 21:25

Get a Lowrance LMF-400 gauge which is a neat 100mm dashboard gauge. You can conect this via a simple N2K network as Channel Ribs suggests and can attach both a fuel flow meter and a depth sounder. I'm pretty certain the LMF will show depth on one of it's pages. If you also connect a GPS aerial to the network the gauge will also calculate your litres per km as well.

Nasher · 04 July 2011, 22:04

I have a Navman 2100 stand alone fuel flow meter on my RIB and wouldn't be without it.

Northstar now make the Navman gear.
I believe the Navman 2100 range became the Northstar 210 range, and the Fuel Flow meter should still be availble. It's exactly the same with a different name printed on it.
F210-Fuel | Northstar

These guys have been helpful in the past and list it
JG Technologies Dealer Specialist Marine Electronics

The Marine Mega store are suggesting you can still buy the Navman 2100 Fuel from them, but I'm not sure I'd trust them enough to believe it will arrive.

Nasher.

C-NUMB · 05 July 2011, 07:46

Thanks for a good link Nasher and Erin for the LMF 400 suggestion. The LMF 400 together with fuel flow sensor and a transducer starts to look like a good package. But can't find any Electronic Probe transducer on Lowrance homepage, and LMF series is not mentioned as compatible with other transducers so don't know will it work? But if, then it would be what i need.

Channel Ribs · 05 July 2011, 07:50

The LMF-400 is capable of displaying the following NMEA 2000 data:

Paddlewheel speed, GPS speed, tachometer, battery voltage, alternator voltage, engine temperature, water pressure, engine oil pressure, fuel pressure, boost pressure, transmission oil pressure, atmospheric pressure, temperature, depth, engine loads, engine hours, fuel flow, fuel economy, fuel remaining, fuel used, fuel range, trip fuel used, seasonal fuel used, engine synchronizer, fluid level, GPS position, trim tab position, engine trim position, and engine alarms and warnings.

Any N2K depth transducer ought (see below) to work.

Channel Ribs · 05 July 2011, 07:57

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Originally Posted by C-NUMB

can't find any Electronic Probe transducer on Lowrance homepage

Have a look here:

Airmar Marine Product Search Form

C-NUMB · 05 July 2011, 16:21

Thanks for help, spent little more time on the net, starting to get the picture(almost). Only downside with the NMEA 2000 system is that he transducers seams to be expensive.

LST-3800 gauge+transducer is priced in most places cheaper than a NMEA 2000 ARIMAR transducer alone? But well, it might be a god thing to have everything compatible for the future. Will do some thinking, as i need both, consider also a fish finder, it might be good to see the profile of the bottom, myriads of stones in these waters.

JABS · 05 July 2011, 18:17

I have an unused but unboxed meter and transducer that I am happy to sell.

I will see what it is!

Back soon.

Arjen9 · 05 July 2011, 20:12

There is also an Raymarine solution :Raymarine Marine Electronics - ST70 Multifunction Color Instrument

Channel Ribs · 06 July 2011, 07:06

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Originally Posted by Arjen9

There is also an Raymarine solution

Pricey though, 400 quid just for the display.

The Garmin 451S is now N2K enabled, though I have not yet fitted a fuel flow sensor to one. If it worked it would be a really powerful setup for around 500 quid, with charts, sonar AND potentially fuel.

JABS · 06 July 2011, 16:39

I have a brand new Northstar F210 with transducer and manual. All that is missing is the box.

Open to sensible offers.

I can photograph is necessary.

PM if interested.