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Old 03 March 2021, 12:37   #1
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Ofcom EMF consultation

Does anyone understand the latest on this consultation from Ofcom?

They say they are going "vary my licence" -whatever that means, and that in future they won't contact licence holders - we should consult their website regularly instead!

Going to the website has not clarified anything - even tried reading their latest document... so full of abbreviations and technical terms I got nothing out if apart from they are bringing in new rules - undefined as far as I could see to limit EMF exposure, and they are varying licences to account for it - whatever "it" may be. It's page 65 before they start to say what the new rules are - even then I don't understand how it relate to my HH/ fixed VHF!

I'm totally confused and really do wonder why public bodies cannot express their thought / policies in clear simple English - or at least summarise the key points / requirements clearly.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/asse...ion-update.pdf - good luck with it
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Old 03 March 2021, 13:06   #2
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Just had the same email and came here to see if anyone had looked in to it.

Better go and look at their website I suppose.

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Same here, I had 2 as I have a business license for work radios, no wiser🤷*♂️
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Ah

I might have it wrong, but it looks like they'll be issuing licences based on the power of the equipment you want to use, in bands.
Above 10W is mentioned, which I think doesn't apply to most VHFs in coastal boats, but it means our licences won't be valid for more powerful equipment.

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Ah

I might have it wrong, but it looks like they'll be issuing licences based on the power of the equipment you want to use, in bands.
Above 10W is mentioned, which I think doesn't apply to most VHFs in coastal boats, but it means our licences won't be valid for more powerful equipment.

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Marine VHF fixed sets are 25W
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https://www.rya.org.uk/newsevents/ne...condition.aspx

There is a bit on the RYA website plus the consultation suggests they are producing additional guidance for maritime users.

I think the 10W they refer to is a different measurement than the 25W power of a typical fixed VHF.

I'll await a simplified version.
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I especially love that Ofcom call it " An Important Communication"- it goes into my Spam folder not my inbox, and they then state there's no guarantee they'll communicate directly with people even on important things in the future, so we should check their website on a regular basis You couldn't make it up!
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I'm totally confused and really do wonder why public bodies cannot express their thought / policies in clear simple English - or at least summarise the key points / requirements clearly.
When one remembers that the primary goal of most big public sector organisations / charities is to keep the gravy train going for all those employed, everything suddenly makes sense.
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as i read it its to protect the general public from EMF from your antenna there's a calculator that gives a safe distance you should maintain
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Ofcom emailed about this consultation

We got the email at our Sailing Club and I had one sent to my personal email. It was so heavily worded using phases that appeared to be those that would be used by a scammer from another country that we made a telephone enquiry with Ofcom and forwarded them the email. After three days they confirmed that it was genuine. The website is totally unclear and I suspect many people will not attempt to comply or fill in whatever it is needs filling in. It wasted an hour or two of my time trying to establish if it was genuine or not. Quite annoying really.
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We got the email at our Sailing Club and I had one sent to my personal email. It was so heavily worded using phases that appeared to be those that would be used by a scammer from another country that we made a telephone enquiry with Ofcom and forwarded them the email. After three days they confirmed that it was genuine. The website is totally unclear and I suspect many people will not attempt to comply or fill in whatever it is needs filling in. It wasted an hour or two of my time trying to establish if it was genuine or not. Quite annoying really.


Well, if this is the output of the regulator of the “communications” industry, someone needs to go outside & give their head a shake. It’s a disgrace. Even the link to the website doesn’t work.
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Is this not the sort of nonsense that somebody promised wouldn't happen in the UK after, you know, The Thing...

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Dunno, can’t see how it could be linked to the “you know what” tbh. More likely the ITU, nice try though
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More likely the ITU, nice try though
Are you still in that old thing?
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Dunno, can’t see how it could be linked to the “you know what” tbh. More likely the ITU, nice try though


Looks like it’s some kind of International quango

https://www.icnirp.org/en/about-icni...nce/index.html
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Looks like it’s some kind of International quango

https://www.icnirp.org/en/about-icni...nce/index.html
I shall add that to my List of Things to Ignore.
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I shall add that to my List of Things to Ignore.


Probably wisewhatever happens, nowt will change. I smell a box ticking exercise.
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Is this what is confusing everyone?
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We are proposing to include a specific condition in Wireless Telegraphy Act licences requiring licensees to comply with the ICNIRP Guidelines.
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The irony is Ofcom are the regulators for COMMUNICATION.
If anyone should be able to communicate clearly it is them
Is it just me????
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Is this what is confusing everyone?


I think the confusion is arising from an email that doesn’t actually say anything. It basically says we’re thinking of doing something but we’re not going to tell you what. If you want to join in the discussion of what we might or might not do, click on this link that doesn’t work. When we’ve decided what we’re not going to do, you can look on our website to see if we’ve done it or not & what you need to do to comply with what we’ve done.. or not.
I hope that’s cleared things up
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