Navicom mmsi reste

Reds · 16 June 2013, 00:44

Hi, i have a navicom 450 vhf from an old boat. i need to put it in my new boat. How can i reset the mmsi ?

Thanks

willk · 16 June 2013, 06:22

Generally a VHF will have to be returned to the manufacturer or main dealer for a reset. It's a bit scammish IMO, but I think that it is like this to stop people removing the MMSI by accident while fiddling with the set. There are some codes available for some sets that work - try a google for yours. Don't hold your breath. If the set is older, it may be time to sell it and upgrade...

chris.moody · 16 June 2013, 06:44

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Originally Posted by willk

Generally a VHF will have to be returned to the manufacturer or main dealer for a reset. It's a bit scammish IMO, but I think that it is like this to stop people removing the MMSI by accident while fiddling with the set. There are some codes available for some sets that work - try a google for yours. Don't hold your breath. If the set is older, it may be time to sell it and upgrade...

Surely by the manufacturers not allowing the MMSI to be reset means that DSC VHFs acquired second hand are being used with another vessels MMSI programmed in which is a BIG problem as the coastguard will be searching for the wrong vessel if the red button is pressed.

thomas · 16 June 2013, 08:40

These is no need to change the MMSI, just change the license details on the ofcom website, the MMSI is tied into the radio not the boat.

Leapy · 16 June 2013, 09:15

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Originally Posted by thomas

These is no need to change the MMSI, just change the license details on the ofcom website, the MMSI is tied into the radio not the boat.

Is this right???

Poly · 16 June 2013, 10:59

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Originally Posted by Leapy

Is this right???

Its not my understanding - and the OP is in portugal so Offcom presumably no help.

The "rule" comes from the ITU guidance on DSC radios that the user should not be able to change without input from the manufacturer.

Tim&Linda · 16 June 2013, 11:06

mmsi is part of the radio not the name of your boat or length or anything with the vessel . mmsi is like a tv licence

Bluerib · 16 June 2013, 11:15

The MMSI is issued by OFCOM as part of your Ship Radio Licence. The MMSI therefore "belongs" to the ship, not to the radio or to the owner, so if the ship changes hands, the MMSI goes with it. If the radio only changes hands, the MMSI should be erased and a new one entered, otherwise there is a risk of two boats afloat with the same MMSI. (for the avoidance of doubt, "Ship" is OFCOM radio speak for anything that floats with a fixed radio in it.)

MMSI's for hand portables are different.

Nos4r2 · 16 June 2013, 11:15

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Originally Posted by leapy

is this right???

No!!!!!

ashbypower · 16 June 2013, 12:06

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Originally Posted by thomas

These is no need to change the MMSI, just change the license details on the ofcom website, the MMSI is tied into the radio not the boat.

OMG I have been teaching this WRONG then for the past 12 Years !!!

Sorry Bud that is NOT right, the MMSI is issued to the VESSEL !!!
The only MMSI's issued other than o a vessel are those for a Portable (HH) DSC radio and to Shore based TRAINING Radio's !!

thomas · 16 June 2013, 14:09

The mmsi and the call sign are assigned to a particular vessel, however once an mmsi number is programmed it there for good unless you want to send it back to the manufacturer, however, if you go to the ofcom site you can change the vessel details yourself, it may not be a orthodox way of doing things but it can be done.

I've never had to do it as never needed to as every boat I've ever bought, except my last one, has never had a number programmed in, I expect because the owner has never had a licence and had no idea what it was. There are plenty of raggies I've met who have kept their radio and stuck it on the new boat and just changed the details with ofcom.

Erin · 16 June 2013, 14:13

For certain, the call sign and mmsi stay with the vessel. If changing ownership the mmsi will stay with the vessel unless the old license is cancelled and it is not reregistered in new owners name within a certain timescale.

ashbypower · 16 June 2013, 14:14

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Originally Posted by thomas

The mmsi and the call sign are assigned to a particular vessel, however once an mmsi number is programmed it there for good unless you want to send it back to the manufacturer, however, if you go to the ofcom site you can change the vessel details yourself, it may not be a orthodox way of doing things but it can be done.

I've never had to do it as never needed to as every boat I've ever bought, except my last one, has never had a number programmed in, I expect because the owner has never had a licence and had no idea what it was. There are plenty of raggies I've met who have kept their radio and stuck it on the new boat and just changed the details with ofcom.

That is as maybe however it does not mean they are doing it right... As I say the MMSI is a vessel allocation NOT radio....