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Old 08 March 2019, 07:44   #1
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Maps/charts - CMAP or Navionics

Boating in N Wales. Any views which is better?
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Old 08 March 2019, 08:48   #2
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Can’t comment on CMap Paul, I’ve always used Navionics. As close to paper charts as you can get. I think they might do one that just covers the Menai[emoji6]
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+1 navionics uk & ireland.
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Navionics for me too Paul, great display and detail
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Another one for Navionics [emoji106]
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Old 08 March 2019, 12:24   #6
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I’ve got both in my hds7. Got the cmap free with it, but prefer Navionics myself - just seems to be much more detailed
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Ha! The point will be to go past there!

Navionics it is.

I can't understand what you can do from a Simrad Go 7xse in terms of engine. If you get a NMEA kit what will it show?

Vs paying hundreds more for the vessel view box?
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Ha! The point will be to go past there!

Navionics it is.

I can't understand what you can do from a Simrad Go 7xse in terms of engine. If you get a NMEA kit what will it show?

Vs paying hundreds more for the vessel view box?


You can more or less set it up to display whatever engine data you want, as long as the engine is outputting the data onto the network.Click image for larger version

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+ another for Navonics!

As Pikey says, as long as the NMEA2k is there... I have an HDS5 showing coolant pressure & head temp (I retro -fitted 2 Lowrance NMEA sensors as the 1970s designed "your engine has stopped because it overheated & seized" thermal switch left a bit to be desired!

No Idea what your engine is, but if it doesn't already spit out NMEA2k, you can get adapter boxes to translate the "OEM" data stream to NMEA. If it's old then retro fitting sensors is the only solution....but that is a topic in itself!
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Gone for the Simrad Go7xse, but Merc needs a £200+ box to convert to NMEA, combined with the NMEA lead for another £60 it's a waste of money as we can just using the two new Merc smartcraft gauges with LED screens. Plotter screen for... plotting [emoji1]
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.... just using the two new Merc smartcraft gauges with LED screens. Plotter screen for... plotting [emoji1]
With you on that. Plotter display would be fine if it was just dedicated to that application and you didn't need to keep switching from one to the other.

I've added an "analogue" Smartcraft trim gauge becuase there's other parameters I like to have permanently displayed on the tach & speedo.

You might find the trim readout is a bit "slow"....finger's off the button before it's updated but you get the same "lag" with their "analogue" type trim gauge.

PS the instructions for calibrating the trim gauge are a bit vague and misleading. Part of it has to be done with the boat moving at speed to establish the "maximum trim" position. There's more info on some of the American forums but happy to give a "blow by blow" if and when you need it.

That said.....still loving the engine.
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Hoping the trim is accurate as it's the new Merc 3.4L 4s with digital throttle etc...
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Hoping the trim is accurate as it's the new Merc 3.4L 4s with digital throttle etc...


The best trim gauge on the boat is your bum[emoji106]
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But you can't tell others what your bum feels like.........
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Gone for the Simrad Go7xse, but Merc needs a £200+ box to convert to NMEA, combined with the NMEA lead for another £60 it's a waste of money as we can just using the two new Merc smartcraft gauges with LED screens. Plotter screen for... plotting [emoji1]

I reckon I spent about £250 to get data on my screen. - Probably around 1/4 the value of the engine! - I almost toyed with leaving space on my console for another small plotter to display the engine data. I may in the fullness of time replace my <as good as useless trim sender> for an NMEA digi display. ( My clamp assy is cobbled, and I never found a suitable way of hooking up a sender - I have now lived so long without a trim readout that I don't feel it would add much to my set-up, as I just use the engine note to optimise it...)

My reckoning is that I would rather know if a problem was creeping up on me, so in my head it was £250 well spent...

Also if you plotter talks to the engine, you have a hidden screen on the plotter (Assuming it's not just the old Lowrances that you can do that with) in case your Smartcraft gauges pack up and so have another way of having engine visibility... Although electronic back-up is another discussion in itself.. .
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