Go Back   RIBnet Forums > RIB talk > Electrics and electronics
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 27 March 2008, 20:55   #1
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
LED Nav Lights/ Resettable Fuse Board.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hella-Navi-led...QQcmdZViewItem

What's the verdict on these babies? Value/quality?
Also, resettable marine grade fuse boards, any good or am I better off with glass fuses?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LED-MASTHEAD-N...QQcmdZViewItem

...and this?
__________________
Mollers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2008, 21:28   #2
Member
 
Country: Other
Town: San Carlos, Mexico
Boat name: INDE
Make: LOMAC 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 Merc.
MMSI: Please press 1
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,688
Send a message via Skype™ to Limey Linda
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers View Post
Also, resettable marine grade fuse boards, any good or am I better off with glass fuses?
Be carefull with "resettable" stuff. they are circuit breakers that once popped change their rating. Just like the ones on your house. I like fuses.
__________________
Running around like a head with it's chicken cut off.
Limey Linda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2008, 21:31   #3
Member
 
Hightower's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 7,866
I bought my LED nav light direct from Austrailia and only cost me £23 for the pair. Haven't used them yet, but see no reson why they won't be excellent and they're stainless covered ones too.

As for fuse board....Why?

All I've got is a switch panel with MCB's so I don't have to fiddle about with fuses and the like.
__________________
Andy

Looks Slow but is Fast
Member of the ebay Blue RIB cover club.
Hightower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2008, 21:38   #4
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
Yeah, I saw the 'Oz' items. Pretty good you reckon?
I have a tenant Sparky whom fits out superyachts here http://www.pendennis.com/. He advised resettable but then, it wouldn't exactly be exposed when buried in the engine room of a 80m Oil Gangsters plaything.
__________________
Mollers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2008, 22:11   #5
RIBnet admin team
 
Poly's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Limey Linda View Post
...they are circuit breakers that once popped change their rating. Just like the ones on your house.
Can you elaborate on this?
__________________
Poly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2008, 22:17   #6
Member
 
Country: Other
Town: San Carlos, Mexico
Boat name: INDE
Make: LOMAC 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 Merc.
MMSI: Please press 1
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,688
Send a message via Skype™ to Limey Linda
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart View Post
Can you elaborate on this?
Most electro mech. breakers are heat operated. After they have popped once the bi-metal strip ( I assume) takes on a different rating. A friend of mine works for the local power service and if called out fix a problem with a breaker they always replace it.
__________________
Running around like a head with it's chicken cut off.
Limey Linda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2008, 22:43   #7
RIBnet admin team
 
Poly's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Limey Linda View Post
Most electro mech. breakers are heat operated. After they have popped once the bi-metal strip ( I assume) takes on a different rating. A friend of mine works for the local power service and if called out fix a problem with a breaker they always replace it.
so does the rating go up or down? if it goes up that would seem to be an unsafe design. if it goes down then you would expect the breaker to trip quicker next time, go down again and the problem to perpetuate. Their popularity suggests this cannot be a significant issue.

My understanding was the breakers in my house (which I think are fairly common) used both a thermal trip to cut out small continuous current overloads and an electromagnetic switch to activate an immediate very high overload (e.g. a short).

Is your friend changing breakers in someones house or on the electricity network? could it be that he is switching very high voltages/currents where the arcing inside the switch may damage the contacts? or perhaps the cost/inconvenience of having to return to a site/the power going down if the breaker is faulty makes it a cost effective precaution.

Sorry for drifting a bit Off Topic - but I think you were possibly doing circuit breakers a disservice - although how suitable they are on an open boat is a different question.
__________________
Poly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2008, 22:59   #8
Member
 
Jizm's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower View Post
I bought my LED nav light direct from Austrailia and only cost me £23 for the pair. Haven't used them yet, but see no reson why they won't be excellent and they're stainless covered ones too.
Be careful of the 'stainless' ones because some are just chrome covers and go scabby pretty quick.
Jizm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 March 2008, 23:01   #9
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverness
Boat name: none
Make: none
Engine: none
MMSI: none
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,908
I suppose it depends on how often you expect something to trip. I didn't feel the cost or complexity of breaker switch panels to be worth it as there was more to go wrong and if a breaker popped it clogs you were stuck. At least a fuse has no moving parts and can be changed easily.
I like the small motor vehicle fuses rather than glass ones, they are easily available, marked for rating, easy to change and as long as they are kept dry seem to last.
__________________
BruceB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 March 2008, 00:35   #10
Member
 
Country: Other
Town: San Carlos, Mexico
Boat name: INDE
Make: LOMAC 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 Merc.
MMSI: Please press 1
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,688
Send a message via Skype™ to Limey Linda
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart View Post
or perhaps the cost/inconvenience of having to return to a site/the power going down if the breaker is faulty makes it a cost effective precaution.

Sorry for drifting a bit Off Topic - but I think you were possibly doing circuit breakers a disservice - although how suitable they are on an open boat is a different question.
My understanding is that the rating goes down ie. they get tired. You are probably correct about changing it to be on the safe side for economic reasons. perhaps I am a bit old fanshioned ; but there are many times I have spent a lot of time solving an electrical problem only to find out that the bloody breaker was popping; mainly working on swimming pool pumps. I like fuses. They are blown or not blown and no in between.
__________________
Running around like a head with it's chicken cut off.
Limey Linda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 March 2008, 08:13   #11
RIBnet supporter
 
bedajim's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,500
You could go for a Blue sea fuse panel and fit these, then it would be easy to go back to fuses if needed

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/s...duct&R=0854431

They also do these which look a neat idea

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/s...duct&R=3377943
__________________
bedajim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 March 2008, 22:33   #12
Member
 
Erin's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
I've just fitted the Hella Nav lights. Not cheap, but they look like they'll last and are certainly bright. I chose them on the basis that most Hella things I've seen are usually good. If VW use Hella for headlights they must be ok.

The chrome casing is in fact just a plastic cover which is a bit disapointing, and the fly leads are pretty short and pathetic, and not even tinned. However, beneath the cover is a fairly hefty alloy moulding which I presume acts as a heatsink.
__________________
Erin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 16:18.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.