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wavelength · 22 June 2007, 08:07

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http://www.enrrens.com/gps/standard-...kg/prod_6.html

interesting site for various things

- anyone actually bought anything from them ?

Sarah G · 22 June 2007, 09:15

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Originally Posted by wavelength

interesting site for various things

- anyone actually bought anything from them ?

They do have testimonials from 'customers'. I would have a number of concerns:-
1) cost of postage
2) you would have to know the exact model number otherwise you might run the risk of buying a product that is not legal over here i.e. the CPV350.

However, when looking at the CP180i (excluding P&P) it is almost £100 cheaper than any internet site at £201.81. You could - if they are reputable, upgrade to the CP300 GPS for less than the cost of the CP180i and get a Fishfinder as part of the package.

Jon Brooks · 22 June 2007, 09:38

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Originally Posted by Sarah G

OK Jon

Furuno GP30 GPS which is on a bracket;
Icom IC-59Euro which is flush mounted;

Hope this is enough information.

Many thanks

Sarah

M59 was one of the worlds first DSC radio's.
When made it could have a DSC PCB added inside the radio.
Sad to say this was for class F DSC and NOT class D.
Whilst this was a great radio in its time, many still out there in use, it cannot be used for DSC in UK/EU.
Be worth looking to replace this, can fetch a good price on E-bay.
Clubs like this unit for use as a base radio.

I understand the GPS is just a GPS and nothing more.
A very good GPS though.
Fine if you want just a Lat/Long type read out that can feed other bits of kit.

Hope that helps a bit.

Sarah G · 22 June 2007, 09:41

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Originally Posted by Jon Brooks

M59 was one of the worlds first DSC radio's.
When made it could have a DSC PCB added inside the radio.
Sad to say this was for class F DSC and NOT class D.
Whilst this was a great radio in its time, many still out there in use, it cannot be used for DSC in UK/EU.
Be worth looking to replace this, can fetch a good price on E-bay.
Clubs like this unit for use as a base radio.

I understand the GPS is just a GPS and nothing more.
A very good GPS though.
Fine if you want just a Lat/Long type read out that can feed other bits of kit.

Hope that helps a bit.

Thanks Jon. So if I were to replace what we have, what do you recommend bearing in mind I still need a depth sounder?

Sarah

Jon Brooks · 22 June 2007, 10:32

Well Sarah I am a tad bias!

Garmin make some craking kit and have always thought highly of it.

I have fitted Standard Horizon to the new boat

Pricing is god as is the kit, many one here will back that.

My fav at the the mo has to be the CP-300.
Having said that is space is an issue then the CP-180 is as good.

Both can be fitted with the optional FF520 for depth.

Hope that helps a bit

jwalker · 22 June 2007, 10:39

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Originally Posted by Jon Brooks

I understand the GPS is just a GPS and nothing more.
A very good GPS though.
Fine if you want just a Lat/Long type read out that can feed other bits of kit.

Don't discard it so quickly. It has navigation pages and stores waypoints and routes. At the easy level, you can tell it to go to your waypoint. If you follow the CDI you should arrive there. It's not a plotter but that doesn't mean it won't get you home. It has nice big text on the screen too.

Cookee · 22 June 2007, 12:39

Jon - I can't find the max speed reading on our GPS - we have the CP181i?

Sarah G · 22 June 2007, 14:31

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Originally Posted by Jon Brooks

Well Sarah I am a tad bias!

Garmin make some craking kit and have always thought highly of it.

I have fitted Standard Horizon to the new boat

Pricing is god as is the kit, many one here will back that.

My fav at the the mo has to be the CP-300.
Having said that is space is an issue then the CP-180 is as good.

Both can be fitted with the optional FF520 for depth.

Hope that helps a bit

Nothing wrong with bias!

I like the CP300. Is there much difference between the CP180 and the CP180i. I'm not sure if our boat has an external antenna already (or whether that is for the radio) - if not would it make sense going for an internal arial?

Sarah G · 22 June 2007, 14:33

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Originally Posted by jwalker

Don't discard it so quickly. It has navigation pages and stores waypoints and routes. At the easy level, you can tell it to go to your waypoint. If you follow the CDI you should arrive there. It's not a plotter but that doesn't mean it won't get you home. It has nice big text on the screen too.

Hi JW

I'm not discarding it, it is just that we need a depth sounder and I don't want to go and buy something and then find it isn't compatible or that the cost could have been saved going for another option. I suppose as a novice I understand the Tom Tom type approach rather than Long and Lat - Not that that isn't important as well.

Sarah G · 22 June 2007, 15:07

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Originally Posted by wavelength

interesting site for various things

- anyone actually bought anything from them ?

Bad news, I'm afraid - you have to buy a minimum of 5 units (can be a mixed order) but of 5 things

Jon Brooks · 22 June 2007, 21:36

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Originally Posted by Sarah G

Nothing wrong with bias!

I like the CP300. Is there much difference between the CP180 and the CP180i. I'm not sure if our boat has an external antenna already (or whether that is for the radio) - if not would it make sense going for an internal arial?

JW

Was not suggesting Sarah got shot of the GP30.

Sarah

CP-180 and CP-180i are the same.
The "i" denotes built in antenna, ideal for bracket mounting on a consol.
If your going to flush mount then you need the CP-180 with an external antenna.
The CP-300 come in both versions also

GPS antenna will look a bit like a mushroom, VHF antenna is stick or twig like.
Hence the old CB types used to call them twigs!
Am taking my anorak off now

Jon Brooks · 22 June 2007, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Cookee

Jon - I can't find the max speed reading on our GPS - we have the CP181i?

Max speed you have done? or you want to display speed?

Sarah G · 23 June 2007, 09:29

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Originally Posted by Jon Brooks

JW

Was not suggesting Sarah got shot of the GP30.

Sarah

CP-180 and CP-180i are the same.
The "i" denotes built in antenna, ideal for bracket mounting on a consol.
If your going to flush mount then you need the CP-180 with an external antenna.
The CP-300 come in both versions also

GPS antenna will look a bit like a mushroom, VHF antenna is stick or twig like.
Hence the old CB types used to call them twigs!
Am taking my anorak off now

Thanks for this. I'll have a look on Monday when we get the boat (hopefully).

Sarah G · 27 June 2007, 10:50

OK - I have a mushroom and a stick - how is that for technical speak. I think first things first - I need a depth sounder/fishfinder.

I think that we will go with the 160c Garmin. I know that the recommendation was with the 140 but Pat (the other half) reckons that colour is clearer than black and white.

Need to get the compass - Plastimo 90.

bedajim · 27 June 2007, 11:24

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Originally Posted by Sarah G

OK - I have a mushroom and a stick - how is that for technical speak. I think first things first - I need a depth sounder/fishfinder.

I think that we will go with the 160c Garmin. I know that the recommendation was with the 140 but Pat (the other half) reckons that colour is clearer than black and white.

Need to get the compass - Plastimo 90.

Isn't the 160c mainly for fresh water?

I'd go for a garmin 178c (thats gps, elec charts and depth + fish finder sorted)and link it to a radio. That covers most of it I think then add a 270E hand held radio for safety

But thats just me

Nos4r2 · 27 June 2007, 18:12

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Originally Posted by bedajim

Isn't the 160c mainly for fresh water?

I'd go for a garmin 178c (thats gps, elec charts and depth + fish finder sorted)and link it to a radio. That covers most of it I think then add a 270E hand held radio for safety

But thats just me

I would too-I've got the 178 b&W linked to an Icom and the only things I'd change is making the GPS a bit more intuitive on the more complicated settings and I'd go for colour.

Biggles · 27 June 2007, 18:46

Sarah,

I have the 178 c. In my opinion look at a different spec unit. One that receives info from the radio and will plot your friends position. Not too sure which one I would recomend as I haven't used such a GPS but that is what I would be looking for. In my opinion its the only thing the 178 C is missing.

Sunlight is a killer on my 178 c.

I have also found the garmin to have a much better refresh/update rate of the map movement than the navman units I have seen.

Never easy I know buying electronic kit. The 178c is good but not perfect and as with everything price can often be the leading factor on purchasing.

Sarah G · 27 June 2007, 20:24

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Originally Posted by Biggles

Sarah,

I have the 178 c. In my opinion look at a different spec unit. One that receives info from the radio and will plot your friends position. Not too sure which one I would recomend as I haven't used such a GPS but that is what I would be looking for. In my opinion its the only thing the 178 C is missing.

Sunlight is a killer on my 178 c.

I have also found the garmin to have a much better refresh/update rate of the map movement than the navman units I have seen.

Never easy I know buying electronic kit. The 178c is good but not perfect and as with everything price can often be the leading factor on purchasing.

I suppose that my worry is having more than one thing on a piece of electrical equipment. If I keep the depth sounder/fish finder separately, if the GPS fails, I have a back-up, I don't know perhaps you are more likely to lose everything rather than just one element.

I thought that the 160 c would do as the fish finder and then have - later when the bank manager has forgiven me - go something like the Standard Horizon CP180 as the GPS chartplotter. But I like the idea of tracking your friends - it has a 'we know where you are' element - I like that!

Biggles · 27 June 2007, 20:37

As I said I haven't done the tracking bit. But you will need a DSC radio and a Chartplotter that will show DSC Position Polling Requests.

One for the future for me but not just now.

This one might do it. But don't quote me before you spend your pennies.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=148&pID=8053

Sarah G · 27 June 2007, 20:39

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Originally Posted by Biggles

As I said I haven't done the tracking bit. But you will need a DSC radio and a Chartplotter that will show DSC Position Polling Requests.

One for the future for me but not just now.

This one might do it. But don't quote me before you spend your pennies.

https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=148&pID=8053

Good plan. Do the Garmin or Standard Horizon have maps on them? I see that they all quote their maps but does the unit come with a map already installed and if so are this rubbish which is why you have to pay a load more cash for the better maps. Then do you have to pay loads to have them updated - like TomTom?