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Old 09 June 2013, 07:29   #1
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yamaha 250 vs evinrude 250

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Cracking situation to be in but I am looking at purchasing twin 250's for our chase boat for work. I have been using evinrudes for the past few years (all be it smaller models up to 115) and have been really pleased with them, however I have always liked the look of the Yams.

The evinrudes returned great reliability and economy however we did have a few issues with the evinrudes that were expensive to repair due to the specific nature of the injectors.

Personally I am a firm believer of who is able to offer you good service and warrenty will probably win out as both manufacturers are great.

Any views would be welcome to help me make up my mind.

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Old 09 June 2013, 07:55   #2
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The evinrudes returned great reliability and economy however we did have a few issues with the evinrudes ...
Not sure I caught that ...
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Old 09 June 2013, 08:03   #3
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Not sure I caught that ...
I heard it. He means they reliably throw an injector in the presence of two or more water molecules. You save a fortune in petrol while waiting for the replacements - so very economical
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I heard it ...
Ah, got it. Now. On the same basis my Suzuke has been reliable and economical whilst I'm on crutches
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Ah, got it. Now. On the same basis my Suzuke has been reliable and economical whilst I'm on crutches
On that note any reason why is only Evinrude or Yam??

Suzy, Merc????
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Etecs will make a nicer noise! But will drink a load of expensive oil...
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......But will drink a load of expensive oil...
As opposed to putting it in the sump every year
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As opposed to putting it in the sump every year
If you're getting through a gallon in your sump every outing you might want to visit a mechanic!
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Ended up with these two as the dealers and service guys are close by. Of course i could get others but they have to come from further afield, thus in my experience less inclined to get you out the poo at 4pm on a friday! In all seriousness the etec i have used in the past have been great, yes they use oil but their fuel return figures were good so it kind of weighed off, the good thing was the 300 hour service cycle.
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If you're getting through a gallon in your sump every outing you might want to visit a mechanic!
That's some outing Just done 370nm in Oban & used a gallon & half (US) which is about 5.5L in real money. Add that to the 3 year/300hr service interval & the numbers soon start to balance out. AND you have something on the back that's eager to go, not a lump of lard that needs 10 minutes written notice that you would like to move please if it's not too much trouble
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Thanks guys, just had the mercury swerve ball thrown at me so off to read up. I beleive no one makes a bad engine it just comes down to who is local to get you out the poo at the 11th hour!

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Hi

if you are buying 2 the odds of both going wrong are minimal. re the servicing , if this is the basis for your decision then it will be Honda with the 6 year warranty as you can service these yourself if you are a competent mechanic.

if you base it on what the commercial guys use then you will go yam or honda, but lets remember you

a: will have 2 engines so reliability is not as big a concern
b: will not be putting 5-8,000 hours on them

so this for me means that a few engines will do what you are looking for so take your time, do your research and I hope you can find a way of claiming that vat back!

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ps pics will be on our facebook page of the new 250hp honda we fitted (on a rib) last week soon.
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Thanks guys, just had the mercury swerve ball thrown at me so off to read up. I beleive no one makes a bad engine it just comes down to who is local to get you out the poo at the 11th hour!

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I donít profess to being an engine guru, however Iíve been running a 300 verado for the last year and found the engine very impressive. Instant power ( I guess aided by its supercharger ), very smooth and not had any issues or gremlinís Ė defiantly one to consider
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Before going down the Verado route you might want to PM steve at Poole sea safari 250knts on here. He's got a pair of 250s that have done fairly high hours and there have been a couple of issues, most recently gearboxes
He's posted some of the history on here if you care to do a search
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Thanks guys. Gettign quotes in and will take from there. As far as I am concerned there aren't many bad engines out ther eon the market as long as you stick with one of the better known manufacturers....Evinrude, Honda, Yam, Merc, Suzuki, Mariner it all comes down to what the dealer, and service agent are able to offer you.

So at this juncture waiting for quotes and then will move.

VAT no sweat I am in Dubai as of last week!!! Feul = 23p per litre :-)
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If you're getting through a gallon in your sump every outing you might want to visit a mechanic!
Don't use a gallon of xp100 every outing either.
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if you are buying 2 the odds of both going wrong are minimal. re the servicing , if this is the basis for your decision then it will be Honda with the 6 year warranty as you can service these yourself if you are a competent mechanic.

if you base it on what the commercial guys use then you will go yam or honda, but lets remember you

a: will have 2 engines so reliability is not as big a concern
The odds of both going wrong are small - but the odds of either one being dead at any moment in time are doubled. Presumably that means you don't go to sea, so reliability is still a concern for the twin engine buyer.
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Agreed if 1 engine will not get the OP back but most 2 engines set ups are done so that if 1 engine does fail then the other will still get them home and the odds of this are obviously small hence why I made the point.

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Agreed if 1 engine will not get the OP back but most 2 engines set ups are done so that if 1 engine does fail then the other will still get them home and the odds of this are obviously small hence why I made the point.

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No Dave you've missed my point. I'm not disputing the putative advantages of twin engines and the likelihood of getting back to base without help. However most engine problems don't stop you getting home - they stop you going out again the next time (you limp home or never leave the dock or its gets picked up in service and waits for parts). Two engines = twice as likely to have some niggle than means you don't get to go to sea. If the engines are reliable then 2x a very rare event is fine - but if they are less reliable it will be twice as annoying.
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what an interesting point. I suppose I must admit also that due to where i work and as you know having honda's I have never had that problem as a user.
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