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Old 08 January 2012, 16:59   #1
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What about a Selva engine?

Selva Pirhana 9.9 four stroke that is.

9.9 hp and only 30kg. An alternative maybe to the Tohatsu 9.8 that I've been offered. But I cannot find any review of this engine, except for one where the guy "bought it and quickly sent it back"

I contacted a dealer (of Selva engines) based in Brighton, and he of course was full of praise for this engine, claiming they never have any issues with them.

The Pirhana 9.9hp costs £1400 new.

Has anybody got one and are they alright?
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Old 08 January 2012, 18:42   #2
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I did a lot of research as I bought a 4 stroke Selva last year but was not sure which one till I went to see it.

If it's a 2 stroke avoid, it will be made by Selva and they have terrible reliability issues, if it's 4 stoke then it's a re-badged Yamaha and have the bullet proof reliability associated with Yamaha. I think Yamaha bought Selva and Selva now make a lot of the castings for Yamaha.
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It's a four stroke single cylinder engine

I was attracted by the light weight. So you are saying it will be a rebadged Yamaha?
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That was how I understood it, might just be the bigger ones, mine was a 50, as read this....

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That's the review I found.

He's saying the Selva 9.9hp is a piece of junk. I guess I need to find somebody who bought one of the smaller engines.
Doesn't look like anybody on here has one?
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I'd avoid, all the things I read about Selva made engines were not good.

You could give Bill Mitchell at Home Marine in Emsworth a call, he's a Selva service engineer and will give you an honest and blunt opinion.
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He's saying the Selva 9.9hp is a piece of junk. I guess I need to find somebody who bought one of the smaller engines.
Doesn't look like anybody on here has one?
I've been watching this one with interest. You have a good, but "too slow for you motor". You have a lousy review of a specific Selva motor. No-one on here has one, or indeed, much in the way of a Selva in any format.

I think there's a message in there somewhere.

Personally, I'd buy the wee Tohatsu 9.8 you have been offered and take a spare set of plugs and a spanner with you. Changing the plugs on a 9.8 takes a minute and can be done on the water. I've never had to do it in anger, but it's peace of mind.
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I did a lot of research as I bought a 4 stroke Selva last year but was not sure which one till I went to see it.

If it's a 2 stroke avoid, it will be made by Selva and they have terrible reliability issues, if it's 4 stoke then it's a re-badged Yamaha and have the bullet proof reliability associated with Yamaha. I think Yamaha bought Selva and Selva now make a lot of the castings for Yamaha.
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I'd avoid, all the things I read about Selva made engines were not good.

You could give Bill Mitchell at Home Marine in Emsworth a call, he's a Selva service engineer and will give you an honest and blunt opinion.
I really don't understand those two posts. Maybe I'm missing something.

Did you buy one? They're good or they're bad?
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9.9 hp and only 30kg.
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I have a 2- stroke 25Hp that clocks in somewhere around there.....
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I really don't understand those two posts. Maybe I'm missing something.

Did you buy one? They're good or they're bad?
I was wrong n my original comment, I was told, by a Selva specialist, that all their 4 strokes were yamaha's, my 50hp was identical to an F50, this 9.9 clearly is not a Yamaha.
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Aaah! Thanks, I geddit now.
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I don't think the Selva's are built by Yam, I think they are back-engineered based on a Yam, just like Ocean & Parsun was but with lesser quality. I've had a few pass through to judge

The 2 strokes I'd avoid at all costs, much like you would with the Force engine. The 4 strokes do seem better. I've only had a few 4hp 4 strokes but they always looked clean and did what you wanted. I ran with one as aux on my own boat for about 2 years and it never failed me. Never needed it mind but it always started before we went out.

I'd much rather a Tohatsu 9.8 s stroke to a 9.9hp Selva 4 stroke and that's not just because I have one (2006 black model) soon to be available :wink:

That being said I'd rather a Tohatsu (or Yam/Merc) 2 stroke over any 10hp 4 stroke on a Sib/small Rib simply because of the weight. The fuel saving is not enough at that level to sway me, neither is the noise/smell IMHO

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My Selva was 100% Yamaha, if you look at the current Selva and Yamaha engine specs they are identical.

Parts for mine came out of a yamaha packet....
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