Mariner Help Please

carus007 · 31 July 2013, 21:19

Guys

My friend has just bought a Engine from Ebay.

On arrival he unpacked it, and tried to start it.

We made sure it was in Neutral, On start mode, fuel on.

Nothing, still after 25 Pulls.

What could this be? Its was shown working on Ebay.

It has been transported on its correct side.

I am bamboozzleed????????

bartiny · 31 July 2013, 21:35

Kill cord ?

Email the seller

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carus007 · 31 July 2013, 21:39

We have already.

Kill cord all connected,

Sellers says all was ok when he sent out.

bartiny · 31 July 2013, 21:42

What size engine is it? 2 stroke 4 stroke?

carus007 · 31 July 2013, 21:43

4 stroke 6HP

Nos4r2 · 31 July 2013, 21:43

Take the spark plug out and clean it-it's likely some crud has got on them if it's been bounced around. Might be crud stuck in a mainjet as well.

Nos4r2 · 31 July 2013, 21:45

If it's in start position and the choke is on, it might be flooded.

bartiny · 31 July 2013, 21:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Take the spark plug out and clean it-it's likely some crud has got on them if it's been bounced around. Might be crud stuck in a mainjet as well.

+1

Also whilst you have the plugs out check for a spark.

carus007 · 31 July 2013, 21:47

My arm feels like its gonna fall off.

Will try the plugs first.

Would a service at a dealer be recommended?

How much are they?

bartiny · 31 July 2013, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by carus007

My arm feels like its gonna fall off.

Will try the plugs first.

Would a service at a dealer be recommended?

How much are they?

The plugs should be wet with fuel after all that pulling, if not suspect a fueling issue, if wet dry out check for a spark, replace, it should start.

cptsideways · 31 July 2013, 22:36

Fuel tap?

captnjack · 31 July 2013, 22:44

Take out the plug. Remove the fuel line. Pull (over and over) and get whatever oil has gone places it doesn't belong out of the cylinder. Install clean spark plug, refill with correct oil, connect fuel line. Then try.

Its only supposed to be transported "right side up" and someone turned it over or something like that. Unless the seller was smart enough to drain the oil before shipping.

bingosucks · 31 July 2013, 23:25

fuel tap could be switched to wrong setting ,play around with the choke out and in check you have fuel by the fuel filter going into the casing. got fuel check for spark

use an ht tester over the spark plug to check for spark got a spark then remove plug and check the gaps with a gauge you could check for a spark on the plug too but you will have to earth it.. you should be able to smell petrol at this stage too

all the above failed ? hit it with a hammer swallow your pride and pay £80 for a service

m chappelow · 01 August 2013, 07:44

Is there an air vent screw on the fuel tank thats closed.

If in doubt remove a spark plug and put a few drops of fuel into the cylinder , replace the plug & connect the ht lead & try start .

carus007 · 01 August 2013, 20:26

Thanks Guys I will get on with this asap.

Will let you know how it goes.

Regards Russ

carus007 · 02 August 2013, 19:02

Guys still have the problem but this happened today.

I disconnected the Fuel Pipe, Just to make sure there was no blockage.

To my surprise water came out for about 10 seconds, then after that Fuel.

Any idea's guys?

Nos4r2 · 02 August 2013, 19:06

Carb is full of water then!

It needs the carb cleaning.

captnjack · 02 August 2013, 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by carus007

To my surprise water came out for about 10 seconds, then after that Fuel.

Any idea's guys?

Ummm in light of this, isn't it rather obvious? Drain fuel from tank and carb. Start over with fresh fuel...

carus007 · 02 August 2013, 19:11

Problem is its so tight, How does the carb come out?

I am a newbie to this

Is it normal to have water in the carb?

captnjack · 02 August 2013, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by carus007

Problem is its so tight, How does the carb come out?

I am a newbie to this

Is it normal to have water in the carb?

The carb bowl usually unscrews, although there might be a drain which is a slightly easier way to remove any water. Do you have a manual to check?

Fuel is not supposed to have any water at all in it all - typically outboards have water seperating filters to remove any which gets in. But small outboards like a 6hp often don't bother with those extra filters.

Odd that it worked online (supposedly) but somehow has water in it now. Where did the fuel come from?