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Old 13 March 2010, 17:50   #1
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Mariner 60hp No tell tale jet

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I was out on my boat in the week and had a strong tell tale jet from both engines, one was stronger but both strong enough not to worry. I took the boat home, went to fresh water run them both and one had no tell tale at all. It was run in a bucket and the vents were all under water.

Does anyone have any idea what could have happened inbetween recovering onto a trailer and getting home? I was told and have service receipt for impeller changes last year, so i dont think its that. But has anyone had an impeller suddenly stop on them? I thought they gradually got worse before becoming unusable.

If all else i will remove the bottom section and replace impeller but wanted to see if anyone had any less drastic solutions first.

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Old 13 March 2010, 20:57   #2
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Happened once to me.
Minor blockage cleared by blowing up through the tell tale tube (one the inside of the cowling).
Tell tale went weaker and weaker.
Not sure what the blockage was.
Fine after that.
Best of luck
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Old 13 March 2010, 22:26   #3
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i have removed the hose from the plastic nozzle inside the cowling but i will try blowing up into it, see if that clears anything. Cheers for the advice.
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had trouble with mine a month or so back.

Winterised it in October, strted it again in Late November and in January when i started it again it was only only barely trickling. Tried all to clear telltale etc but still the same.I reckon the impeller distorted with all the extremely cold weather we had in December January. Going to get the local marine shop to change the impeller.
let me know what your outcome is
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Ed, it's got to be quite a long way down into the bucket for the engine to pump water. You'll need at least 4 inches above the split between the gearbox and midsection.

Hopefully you haven't fried the impeller as it's probably been running dry if you haven't had it in this far.
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i have removed the hose from the plastic nozzle inside the cowling but i will try blowing up into it, see if that clears anything. Cheers for the advice.
A flush muff may well be a better item to use rather than a bucket.
as it forces water up the engine.
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A flush muff may well be a better item to use rather than a bucket.
as it forces water up the engine.
you won't know if the pumps working properly if you do this
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you won't know if the pumps working properly if you do this
Well there's something else I have just learned
never knew that and never gave it a thought.
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i have always had the engine in the bucket deep enough so the cavitation plate is under water.

It had a solid water jet via the bucket before my trip to sea, and whilst out it was solid too, and engine was only run for about 10 seconds without the jet. Long enough to know if its pumping water, then when it wasnt,the engine was stopped. So im sure it wasnt run dry for long enough to do any damage. Im pretty sure i was told it took around 30seconds for the impeller to get to the point where it melts and starts to cause damage, it wasnt run for that long.

Still havent tried blowing up the nozzle end but if that doesnt work, it could be the leg. Not a problem, just a pain.
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A freind of mine had a similar problem after he had run over a sandbank. With the engine stopped I found that by holding a hose pipe over the tell tale so as to squirt some water up it with the engine running then as soon as you took the hose away loads of brown muck and sand came streaming out then it would block again so re apply the hose, had to do this a good few times to fully clear the sand out of the system.

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Old 14 March 2010, 13:52   #11
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i'll try putting the hose up aswell as blowing up the pipe.

It could be sand ingress as the bottom of the slip was sandy and the boat was driven onto the trailer. I was in the car with my foot on the brake pedal, so i couldnt see if any sand was being kicked up.
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Old 15 March 2010, 16:30   #12
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put the hose pipe up the tell tale end until water started coming out if the vents, then started and now pumps water as it did before, thanks for the advice, worked a treat and saves me dropping the leg and replacing the impeller.
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you won't know if the pumps working properly if you do this
My tell tale fires water out if the engine is running but only trickles if just the hose so perhaps yourt local water pressure may also be a factor.

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Ian,

I dont think its the water pressure as i run the engines up in a deep bucket rather than muffs, i've always been paranoid about whether enough water is getting through via the muffs.

Luckily it looks as though it was just blocked and a combination of letting it dry out and hosing from the wrong end has cleared and now all sorted.

Thanks though

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