Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 23 November 2004, 00:08   #1
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
low water pickup

What exactly are they? There seems to be one type which is a hydrodynamic fairing for the lower leg - the other just seems to be a pipe and scoop - how are they fitted and where is the scoop mounted?

Will prob need one for my jackplate.

Also are water pressure gauges normally fitted or are they special order items???
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 November 2004, 22:10   #2
Member
 
Country: Other
Town: here,there,everywher
Make: canoe
Length: no boat
Engine: paddles
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 43
dunno - an eckzpert did have some advice here
__________________
Orange Beeny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 November 2004, 23:31   #3
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
yes very helpfull..............
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 01:56   #4
Member
 
Country: Canada
Town: cowichan valley
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 70
there is two differant ones that i know of one is for fairing the leg in and making it cut the water better to reduces the drag. i don't think that one is for picking up water. i believe it is more for i/o setups?
The other is for picking up water. it is welded on and than faired in with epoxy. the hose coming out is for the water to run back up to the engine.
we use one on our rescue boat with the jackplates and is a must if you want to use the jack plate to its full potential. for running the water pressure you put a fitting in the head of the engine itself thru a hole that is already there. it is really quite simple. our boat cost about 400 cad to do the lower units
I will try to find pics if you want them
__________________
eksrae
eksrae is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 08:00   #5
Member
 
Cookee's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,225
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
What exactly are they? There seems to be one type which is a hydrodynamic fairing for the lower leg - the other just seems to be a pipe and scoop - how are they fitted and where is the scoop mounted?

Will prob need one for my jackplate.

Also are water pressure gauges normally fitted or are they special order items???
Jackplates are expensive and usually not needed on leisure boats - firstly do REALLY need one? They are one more thing that can go wrong, the least of which is blowing your engine up!

A transom pickup is easier but you'll have to deal with a big pipe going into the cowling and if you dry the boat out and get mud in it there will be trouble. A low water gearbox pickup gets its water from the point of the gearbox and needs to be fitted by an experienced RACE marine engineer.

As Eksrae says guages are an extra guage although Optimaxes may have a display available but I would still fit a seperate one.

Bottom line - is all the above worth it for 3-4 MPH top end and potentially a lot of hassle and a lot of expense?
__________________
Cookee
Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
Cookee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 10:14   #6
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
Thats much more like it - thanks for that both of you - yes I am now committed to getting the transom jack - reason being I NEED the 10" setback as the rear seats now in place!!!

Some piccies would be much app. but I get what you are saying. As to the 3-4mph extra top speed not that important but throttled back a bit I may save a bit on fuel - the less Tony gets out of me the better!!!
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 11:57   #7
Member
 
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,339
Send a message via MSN to Manos Send a message via Yahoo to Manos Send a message via Skype™ to Manos
...and this DAY TIME ROBERY

Check these prices out

http://bobsmachine.com/bigfoot3.shtml $125 + carriage (by USPS will be about $40-50) total in pounds about £80!!!

and now £199+vat and carriage I suppose on top (OVER about $400!!!)
http://www.steeldevelopments.co.uk/Performance_Products.html

and now people wonder why we buy products from the US.

This is the proof and serves them right. And if you think I was about to buy one from here!!! (just the cone to the unit)
Manos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 14:24   #8
Member
 
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,339
Send a message via MSN to Manos Send a message via Yahoo to Manos Send a message via Skype™ to Manos
.....and I've got more


Just the cone from the US $19.95 (about £9.50), Steel developments £35!!!!
and shall I start talking about props??

Whatever you see in pounds is in USDollars at least!!!

The phrase RIP OFF BRITAIN comes to mind
Manos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 14:52   #9
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
One thing you MUST realise Manos - the ONLY stuff that is cheap is stuff actually MADE in the US - the £ is stupidly strong against the $ at the moment. Also as soon as something hits our shores about 20% in tax and duty will be added!!! Now that IS a rip off!!!

The reason the $ is so weak is because the USA is in a shit state financially - their national debt is totally out of control and Bush and the war is making things a lot worse - there is only so long you can keep running on overdraft before nobody will lend you any more money. If the Yanks aren't carefull they are heading for a major collapse which will make the 30s look like small change!!!

Many people think the Yanks are the richest country on Earth - in fact they are prob the most broke of them all - the rest of the World - especially Britain - owns most of the USA!!!
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 14:56   #10
Member
 
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,339
Send a message via MSN to Manos Send a message via Yahoo to Manos Send a message via Skype™ to Manos
I do not disagree with what you say cod.

Strong pound, crap US ecomony etc. However the difference is huge say £199+vat compared to £60 is 300%+ profit!!
and I'm not saying that people should not make any money but 20-25% is a reasonable margine not 100%!!
Manos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 16:08   #11
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manos
I do not disagree with what you say cod.

Strong pound, crap US ecomony etc. However the difference is huge say £199+vat compared to £60 is 300%+ profit!!
and I'm not saying that people should not make any money but 20-25% is a reasonable margine not 100%!!
Couldn't agree more but sometimes companies will buy stuff in and then have it sitting around for ages - the price they paid could be very different after currency fluctuations - having said that it would have to be VERY old stock - the $ has been weak for ages now!!!!
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 16:18   #12
tue
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Paignton, Devon
Make: Chinook and Viking
Length: 7m +
Engine: 150 Etec + 125 Merc
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 526
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Thats much more like it - thanks for that both of you - yes I am now committed to getting the transom jack - reason being I NEED the 10" setback as the rear seats now in place!!!
Why not go for a manual jack plate? Or I have seen a fixed one which is used to gain a set back.
__________________
**Paul**
Brixham BSAC
tue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 17:01   #13
Member
 
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,339
Send a message via MSN to Manos Send a message via Yahoo to Manos Send a message via Skype™ to Manos
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
the $ has been weak for ages now!!!!
This is the reason I am having a go also the dollas hasn't depresated by 200 or evane 100% the last year or the last 5 years

Tue the point of a hydraulik jack plate is that you can get it up and down during motoring. If you get a manual one you can set it up before you go and that is it you are stuck with your settings irrespective of conditions. Do you see the point now?
Manos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 18:08   #14
tue
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Paignton, Devon
Make: Chinook and Viking
Length: 7m +
Engine: 150 Etec + 125 Merc
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 526
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manos
Tue the point of a hydraulik jack plate is that you can get it up and down during motoring. If you get a manual one you can set it up before you go and that is it you are stuck with your settings irrespective of conditions. Do you see the point now?
Yes.

But as he has said the main reason for fitting one is to get a 10" setback. A manual one saves all the agro and cost of a hydraulic jackplate and having to add low pick ups tfor the engine. And as Cookie said they are not really needed on leisure boats. Do you see my point now
__________________
**Paul**
Brixham BSAC
tue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 18:13   #15
Member
 
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,339
Send a message via MSN to Manos Send a message via Yahoo to Manos Send a message via Skype™ to Manos
NO I don't but here you go

Seriously though maoney is no the object here. If you din't have the money you wouldn't spend it for just a hooby and having fun Do you see my point now
Manos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 18:32   #16
tue
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Paignton, Devon
Make: Chinook and Viking
Length: 7m +
Engine: 150 Etec + 125 Merc
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 526
HUH

So money is no object. But that still leaves you with a bit of boat that can go up and down to real gain other than maybe blowing up your engine because the pick ups are full of mud or not alowing sufficeint cooling (and thats really a plus point).

But money is no object so you canalways buy a couple of spare engines for when one blows up. See my point
__________________
**Paul**
Brixham BSAC
tue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 18:38   #17
Member
 
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,339
Send a message via MSN to Manos Send a message via Yahoo to Manos Send a message via Skype™ to Manos
After 2 bottles of Rosemount I find this amusing

Relax we do not have mud in Greece seeeeee my point
Manos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 18:49   #18
tue
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Paignton, Devon
Make: Chinook and Viking
Length: 7m +
Engine: 150 Etec + 125 Merc
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 526


Ah But you must have some slimmy fishy things and seaweed that can grow in there

see my point
__________________
**Paul**
Brixham BSAC
tue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 18:52   #19
Member
 
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
MMSI: 235027678
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,339
Send a message via MSN to Manos Send a message via Yahoo to Manos Send a message via Skype™ to Manos
no as a matter of fact we don't Seriously we don't

never give up lololol
Manos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 November 2004, 18:53   #20
tue
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Paignton, Devon
Make: Chinook and Viking
Length: 7m +
Engine: 150 Etec + 125 Merc
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 526
Doh.

What about sand? got any of that?
__________________
**Paul**
Brixham BSAC
tue is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 10:51.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.