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Old 08 November 2014, 12:15   #1
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My transom is currently set up for twin 60hp, each engine comes in at 109kg giving a total weight of 218kg...gulp.

I'm currently looking at a single engine that weighs some 33kg lighter than the combined twins but it actually exceeds the Max Hp rating of 130.

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...but it actually exceeds the Max Hp rating of 130.

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Talk to Bigmuz - was it only the bigger Northcrafts that has an issue with the transom falling off* ?



* before Northcraft get all lawyers letters - I am aware the transom didn't actually fall off Bigmuz handed the boat back before it had a chance!
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Talk to Bigmuz - was it only the bigger Northcrafts that has an issue with the transom falling off* ?



* before Northcraft get all lawyers letters - I am aware the transom didn't actually fall off Bigmuz handed the boat back before it had a chance!
I'm sure he will be along shortly.
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Insurance Billy?

Maybe that's something I should get round to.
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I would as you never know what can happen especially on the water or around it. Better safe and all based covered. Ins company's do not like you outside laid down recommendations.


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My transom is currently set up for twin 60hp, each engine comes in at 109kg giving a total weight of 218kg...gulp.

I'm currently looking at a single engine that weighs some 33kg lighter than the combined twins but it actually exceeds the Max Hp rating of 130.

Your thoughts?
2 x clamshell at 83*Kg each.

Job done!


*that might be the non PT version weight - I'm having a mental block!
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Would not worry about it. The maximum weight is given so when towing boat down road the weight of engine won't break the boat. As for over maximum hp wouldn't worry it is probably on the stamp so keep someone in the euro happy.

Have had a couple of ribs with too big of engine on it they worked fine.
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My transom is currently set up for twin 60hp, each engine comes in at 109kg giving a total weight of 218kg...gulp.

I'm currently looking at a single engine that weighs some 33kg lighter than the combined twins but it actually exceeds the Max Hp rating of 130.

Your thoughts?
My thoughts??....Nice!....better performance...less Fuel...less Maintainance...lighter Rig...probably more modern engine...+ room for a Aux if you feel the need
As long as the engine is as good or better than what you running currently?
Um...what would I do!?
As to the insurance question (easily checked) my Broker was fine as long as Max speed was below 50 knts...which mine is,Just!

There are some other threads on here that go into it in more detail.
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My thoughts??....Nice!....better performance...less Fuel...less Maintainance...lighter Rig...probably more modern engine...+ room for a Aux if you feel the need
As long as the engine is as good or better than what you running currently?
Um...what would I do!?
As to the insurance question (easily checked) my Broker was fine as long as Max speed was below 50 knts...which mine is,Just!

There are some other threads on here that go into it in more detail.
Agree totally. Most brokers will be fine about it and it won't be an issue. Ask them and go from there. I've had overpowered ribs and not had a problem on the insurance front.

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Agree totally. Most brokers will be fine about it and it won't be an issue. Ask them and go from there. I've had overpowered ribs and not had a problem on the insurance front.

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I might be completely wrong but I wouldn't believe that unless I got it in writing because with a clause such as exceeding the maximum HP limit if the claim was substantial enough such as a serious injury to a third party I'm sure that they would try and wriggle out of paying out, or am I just being cynical.
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I might be completely wrong but I wouldn't believe that unless I got it in writing because with a clause such as exceeding the maximum HP limit if the claim was substantial enough such as a serious injury to a third party I'm sure that they would try and wriggle out of paying out, or am I just being cynical.

Agreed Kerny as I said earlier in the thread I think they will use it as against manufacturers recommendations.


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I've dug out some paperwork and it turns out I'd be 5hp over limit, its actually rated for 135hp but 100hp recommended. There isn't actually a plate on the transom, I'm taking my info from some sales brochures of the boat.

I'm looking at a Suzuki DF 140.

Less weight, less noise, less fuel.
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I've dug out some paperwork and it turns out I'd be 5hp over limit, its actually rated for 135hp but 100hp recommended. There isn't actually a plate on the transom, I'm taking my info from some sales brochures of the boat.

I'm looking at a Suzuki DF 140.

Less weight, less noise, less fuel.
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I might be completely wrong but I wouldn't believe that unless I got it in writing because with a clause such as exceeding the maximum HP limit if the claim was substantial enough such as a serious injury to a third party I'm sure that they would try and wriggle out of paying out, or am I just being cynical.
You Cynical....??
I do agree it's always best to get it in writing and it wasn't an issue to have it added to my schedule.So relaxe Boys!... And enjoy the ride!!
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I've dug out some paperwork and it turns out I'd be 5hp over limit, its actually rated for 135hp but 100hp recommended. There isn't actually a plate on the transom, I'm taking my info from some sales brochures of the boat.

And if they're determined not to pay out, they'll use it!
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I'd add on the insurance front - don't rely on simply saying you have an xx hp engine on YY boat .

Be 100% clear its over the max rated by the builder . Insurers don't know what boat is rated for what - they will only look if something bad happens at which point its too late.

We argue enough on here about what boat is rated to what and we know ALOT more than underwriters do ........

Of course as some of us love to point out a 140 Suzuki may not actually be 140hp - more like 128 ? Just ask AJ .........
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Or you could look at something like a Yam 130... Though that would be a waste of two pages of perfectly good replies.

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