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29 June 2020, 18:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cumbria
Boat name: Honwav t30 ae
Make: Honda
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15hp
Join Date: Feb 2019
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Bill higham scrappage
Hi
After a new or nearly new 40hp outboard . Noticed bill higham doing a scrappage scheme.. anyone used it and what sort of price do u get ? Got a 1989 Merc 2 stroke 50hp. It's getting investigated at mo by a dealer as having a few issues ( no power , spurts or dies ) never been in salt water and looks fab apart from said issue. Hope it's not compression and carb acting up ... But just in case trying to find out how much to change for a 40hp 4 stroke .
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29 June 2020, 20:26
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Anything BH sell you will probably be scrap anyway, so a fair trade.
I'd steer well clear of any deal they are offering.
Nasher.
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29 June 2020, 20:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cumbria
Boat name: Honwav t30 ae
Make: Honda
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15hp
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 159
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Originally Posted by Nasher
Anything BH sell you will probably be scrap anyway, so a fair trade.
I'd steer well clear of any deal they are offering.
Nasher.
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Thx appreciated
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29 June 2020, 20:38
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,903
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Just my opinion of course, from bitter experience.
Nasher.
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29 June 2020, 20:57
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,638
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Long or standard shaft?
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30 June 2020, 08:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: sheffield
Boat name: barracuda
Make: Humber 7.6 mts
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200HP mercury
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 181
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phone Simon at bill higham . he fitted my new 200hp mercury last year very pleased with it.also our diving club RIB got a new 115 mercury traded out old Yamaha fire damaged 100hp engine got over £1500 would recommend a phone call to Simon ( cost nothing to find out) . is NOW in his new premised at Bill Higham Marine, Talybont Uchaf Farm, Tal-y-bont, Bangor LL57 3YW
Phone: 01248 665666 thanks Stephen Eyre Sheffield
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30 June 2020, 09:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,305
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spartacus
Long or standard shaft?
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(Sorry Nash!)
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30 June 2020, 10:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: suffolk
Boat name: not yet
Make: Gemini
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,295
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus
(Sorry Nash!)
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"DING"
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30 June 2020, 10:49
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,903
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Sorry guys, you've lost me.
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30 June 2020, 11:22
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,903
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Only a short shaft. years ago.
A Suzuki DT55 which had plastic filler and fresh paint over a crack in the cylinder block.
Then whilst I was looking for an engine earlier this year I contacted them several times about engines they had in stock, and all had been sold but stayed on EBAY for weeks afterwards. I was always offered another more expensive engine instead.
But gave them another chance a couple of months ago, ordered something from them off EBAY and they cancelled the order a few days later because they didn't have the item.
Then three weeks ago I ordered something from a completely different company on EBAY.
Started chasing delivery 1.5 weeks after payment and didn't get any answers, so put in a request through EBAY issue resolution which got answered and my part was posted 2 weeks after I paid or it.
Believing I'd lost my money I looked up the directors of Marine Imports UK in Manchester and discovered all the directors are called Higham.
I wouldn't trust them with anything from now on.
Liars and cheats looking to shaft anyone they can.
Nasher
nasher.
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30 June 2020, 12:30
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F115
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,917
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasher
I wouldn't trust them with anything from now on.
Liars and cheats looking to shaft anyone they can.
Nasher
nasher.
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Bill Highwayman Marine.
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01 July 2020, 05:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 309
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I once put an immaculate late 80s Yamaha 85hp on eBay. Bill Higham were all over it offering paltry offers as it was “an old engine” in their words, yet they were desperate to buy it.
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01 July 2020, 15:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Doncaster
Boat name: Hustler
Make: Humber
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90 etec
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Yep top price for everything.
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01 July 2020, 15:57
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,638
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phantom 19
I once put an immaculate late 80s Yamaha 85hp on eBay. Bill Higham were all over it offering paltry offers as it was “an old engine” in their words, yet they were desperate to buy it.
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Just how the market works. Agree, their prices are sky high for what it is. They obviously do quite well with second-hand stuff and offering warranty.
Many years ago I looked at an original Japanese Suzuki SJ Jeep, think it was around a grand. Couldn't make my mind up. That afternoon the car was bought by a 4x4 specialist, given a quick wash and stuck on their forecourt for £3k.
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01 July 2020, 19:16
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South West
Make: Zapcat
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50 tohatsu
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 271
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I have noticed they advertise the same engines / type of engine (Ex RNLI) for years on end on every platform going. I’ve enquired a couple times RE the 50hp mariners and the advertised engines / prices are never available.
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01 July 2020, 20:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: sheffield
Boat name: barracuda
Make: Humber 7.6 mts
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200HP mercury
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 181
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LOOKS LIKE Nasher has a problem to bill higham
its wrong to slag a company off when they cannot defend them/ selves
since Simon took over last year things have improved a lot
i have about 5/ 6 engines from them over the ;last 15 years never had a problem
the last 2 engine where 115 merk NEW and the new model 200hp mercury
he was the cheapest fitting service and when i picked up my new boat with the new engine last year worked till 1 AM so i could take the boat on holiday dont think most fitters would have done that
thanks
Stephen Eyre
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01 July 2020, 22:24
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,626
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stepheneyre
LOOKS LIKE Nasher has a problem to bill higham
its wrong to slag a company off when they cannot defend them/ selves
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Nasher is far from unique. Nothing stopping any supplier “defending” themselves.
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since Simon took over last year things have improved a lot
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Given some of the reputation they have I’d have been considering a rebrand, if I was trying to reposition the business.
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01 July 2020, 22:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,149
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
Nasher is far from unique. Nothing stopping any supplier “defending” themselves.
Given some of the reputation they have I’d have been considering a rebrand, if I was trying to reposition the business.
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iirc, Simon did try & defend himself a year or two back, it didn’t end well.
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02 July 2020, 06:28
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,903
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stepheneyre
LOOKS LIKE Nasher has a problem to bill higham
its wrong to slag a company off when they cannot defend them/ selves
since Simon took over last year things have improved a lot
i have about 5/ 6 engines from them over the ;last 15 years never had a problem
the last 2 engine where 115 merk NEW and the new model 200hp mercury
he was the cheapest fitting service and when i picked up my new boat with the new engine last year worked till 1 AM so i could take the boat on holiday dont think most fitters would have done that
thanks
Stephen Eyre
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Stephen
Hi.
If I've understood properly what you're trying to say then yes, I do have a problem with them.
As you can see from my post, every time I've dealt with them they have either been deceitful or just plain not very good at what they do.
The DT from years ago was an obvious bodge, but a long time ago.
Offering sought after engines at good prices on EBAY and their various websites that are just not for sale is a well known ploy to draw customers in and sell them other engines. If they were honest they'd remove the engines after they were sold. For example an Optimax was still on EBAY months after I was told it was sold.
Surely anyone with any grasp of what they are doing would not put items on EBAY that they don't have. Or at least remove the auction when they've sold to the item to somebody without paying the Ebay fees.
Then to take a customers money, and not answer contact chasing it for two weeks is terrible service.
I'm sure they do have satisfied content customers, I'm glad you are one, and would genuinely like to be one myself. And would like Simon to give some reasons for how they've treated me each time.
It would also be good to hear what he's doing to turn the company around and prove to everyone that they are doing something differently, but I'd imagine he'll be happy to carry on the way they are because they can make money that way with less effort than trying to be any better.
Nasher.
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02 July 2020, 14:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: manchester
Make: Seapro
Length: 6m +
Engine: 125 mariner opti
Join Date: May 2014
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In response to this thread:
SCRAPPAGE (this is not government run, it is just an ice breaker so that we can get talking about what you have, and what you want, and work a deal from there).
In its most basic form, we are offering minimum px of a like for like engine (same hp and 4 stroke) - so if its a banger and the same engine as the one you're buying then pls hit buy it now. If however you have a different spec or better condition then *send us pics and we will offer a fair px value for what you have. so if interested pls get in touch.
Sorry for the poor service anyone has received over the past couple of months but in our defence: we have sold around 400 outboard engines and 1000 parts since mid April this year and due to Covid for the 2 months of April and May only two people were working due to distancing regulations, workers shielding NHS family members, or workers shielding themselves as they are in the at risk category, and it was exceptionally hard to keep all the plates spinning at that time, so as a consequence some ads stayed running that should have been removed, and some sales had to get cancelled as a consequence. I'm working 70 hours a week and have over 180 emails to answer every day along with 60 + phone calls. Its a tricky time for everybody and a little patience and understanding of the situation is genuinely appreciated.
The whole of the marine trade are straining under the pressure of low stocks and exceptionally high demand at a time when almost all workplaces have distancing restrictions, and customer service is hit hard as a result.
We work really hard to treat every person as well as we possibly can, please look on any platform at our reviews. over 80% of our business comes from word of mouth recommendation and repeat custom, and we have been here for 47 years, my Dad's name above the top of the workshop is a constant reminder to play straight and do a good job for everybody who puts on the Bill Higham Marine jacket.
I would invite anybody who has an issue to please get in touch with me and I will make sure that we do everything we are able to sort the problem that they have.
I'm not going to get into mud flinging about some of the comments here being unjust and untrue so will just leave it there.
Happy Ribbing to all!
Simon Higham
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