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13 May 2012, 21:07
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Make: Avon Searider 4.7
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Baystar and Mariner 60 fitting problem
Guys - I've just fitted a Baystar kit (front-mount type, not the older side-mount type cylinder) to a Mariner 60 4-stroke EFI (2007 model) on my SR4.7. The problem is that the bolt that attaches the outboard to the Baystar cylinder catches on the cylinder a bit when the outboard is centred (doesn't touch when help is off-centre by turning steering wheel so outboard turned to port or starboard). The steering kit does 'work' however the steering snags slightly when outboard is centred currently, and apart from the slight snagging I'm also concerned the bolt may over time wear a hole into the side of the cylinder.
The photo attached shows the steering turned hard to one side so the bolt isn't snagging, however you can see a hole in the middle of the warning sticker where the bolt has been catching on the cylinder when steering is centred.
I tried fitting the bolt and nut in reverse (nut on the top of the unit), but the head of the bolt still snagged a bit on the cylinder. My other thought is to put a washer or 2x at the top under the bolt-head, to remove the tail of the bolt from catching on the cylinder, but he nut may well catch then.
I've checked the Baystar site and it doesn't list a Mariner 60 as 'compatible' (just Mariner 75-150). Has anyone else fitted a Baystar kit to a Mariner 60 4-stroke outboard?? Any suggestions would be really appreciated, as need to get this sorted before getting my boat back out on the water!
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13 May 2012, 21:38
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Originally Posted by hamish
Guys - I've just fitted a Baystar kit (front-mount type, not the older side-mount type cylinder) to a Mariner 60 4-stroke EFI (2007 model) on my SR4.7. The problem is that the bolt that attaches the outboard to the Baystar cylinder catches on the cylinder a bit when the outboard is centred (doesn't touch when help is off-centre by turning steering wheel so outboard turned to port or starboard). The steering kit does 'work' however the steering snags slightly when outboard is centred currently, and apart from the slight snagging I'm also concerned the bolt may over time wear a hole into the side of the cylinder.
The photo attached shows the steering turned hard to one side so the bolt isn't snagging, however you can see a hole in the middle of the warning sticker where the bolt has been catching on the cylinder when steering is centred.
I tried fitting the bolt and nut in reverse (nut on the top of the unit), but the head of the bolt still snagged a bit on the cylinder. My other thought is to put a washer or 2x at the top under the bolt-head, to remove the tail of the bolt from catching on the cylinder, but he nut may well catch then.
I've checked the Baystar site and it doesn't list a Mariner 60 as 'compatible' (just Mariner 75-150). Has anyone else fitted a Baystar kit to a Mariner 60 4-stroke outboard?? Any suggestions would be really appreciated, as need to get this sorted before getting my boat back out on the water!
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Hi Hamish few pic's here that might help you a spacer is required
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13 May 2012, 21:46
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Great - many thanks. Is that a Baystar or Seastar manual out of interest, as on the Teleflex site they don't list my engine as compatible, but it explicitly lists it in the manual you've got? Cheers.
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13 May 2012, 21:51
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Hi hamish, you need to fit the baystar bracket under the tilt arm & not on top
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13 May 2012, 21:55
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Great - many thanks. Is that a Baystar or Seastar manual out of interest, as on the Teleflex site they don't list my engine as compatible, but it explicitly lists it in the manual you've got? Cheers.
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yep, i fitted the same on my etec this yr it as all the info for fitting all engines hope you get it sorted
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13 May 2012, 21:56
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Well spotted - cheers - I'll give that a go and see if it solves he issue. Looking at the picture, looks like it may well do. Bit annoying the marine engineer who fitted the engine and steering left it like this! Hadd - cheers mate - most appreciated.
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13 May 2012, 22:00
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Well spotted - cheers - I'll give that a go and see if it solves he issue. Looking at the picture, looks like it may well do. Bit annoying the marine engineer who fitted the engine and steering left it like this! Hadd - cheers mate - most appreciated.
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No probs
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14 May 2012, 15:42
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Turning the nut/bolt upside-down from where it is (i.e. run the bolt up through the parts, rather than down) should fix it as well, as long as it doesn't catch on anything else.
jky
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14 May 2012, 16:41
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I tried that - the bolt head caught on the cylinder that way round. I'll try putting the outboard bit below the Baystar bit, and invert the bolt/nut - see how it goes, and let you know.
Cheers.
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15 May 2012, 22:12
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Hi Hadd all sorted - i swapping the bracket order over as suggested and it fixed it ;- ). Thanks again!!
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16 May 2012, 00:34
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Country: UK - England
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Boat name: "mr Jingles"
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Engine: 130 Etec
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hamish
Hi Hadd all sorted - i swapping the bracket order over as suggested and it fixed it ;- ). Thanks again!!
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