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Old 22 March 2012, 17:49   #1
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90hp four stroke honda

I am looking at a ribcraft rib 6.5 m in length that is equipped with a 90hp four stroke Honda engine and I am just wondering if anyone knows much information on this type and size of engines
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Old 22 March 2012, 17:58   #2
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The boat is a bit underpowered, but the Hondas are generally 'boringly reliable.'
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Old 23 March 2012, 03:41   #3
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how old is the Honda and has it been a private engine ( 6 years warranty) or commercial (2 years and tend to have silly hours on them i.e. 3,000 +.

as for how good, they are reliable, don't drink much fuel compared to others, great warranty, easy and cheap to service and happy to buy it off you.

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Old 23 March 2012, 16:32   #4
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I got my Honda 90 serviced and it was not cheap! the Honda service kit was an eye watering
189.99 inc vat + labour which took the bill to nearly 400.00

Commercial usage @ 200 hours service intervals and 1000 hours a year = 2000 a year in servicing.

Lets say i worked a full week ( which most of us do) and I fished for 2000 hours a year that would be 4000.00 in servicing to keep my 2 year commercial warranty

Oh yes Honda's are reliable!!! at skimming off any profit you might make from fishing on service charges for their 2 year commercial warranty

Should have bought a 90 Opti 2 stroke like I was going too !!
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Old 23 March 2012, 17:32   #5
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ADI-who does your servicing?

clyde outboards do my servicing (on a mariner 100 4 stroke) and it is very reasonable and a damn site cheaper than 400.

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Old 24 March 2012, 00:27   #6
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Xk59D, thanks for reply. I am guessing he is using another dealer and as I dont want to talk about the competition I will say we offer a mobile service and cover from the borders to inverness including the Oben and fort william area.

ADI if you are in this area why dont you call us.

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Old 24 March 2012, 06:08   #7
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cover from the borders to inverness including the Oben and fort william area.
where is Oben then :-)?? sorry, couldn't resist.

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Old 24 March 2012, 08:25   #8
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mmmmm that's ok I have just added a fiver onto your next service!!! :-) oh and if you ever get a few minutes we are starting to promote our facebook page Clyde Outboard Services - Local Business - Gourock, United Kingdom | Facebook

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Old 25 March 2012, 14:29   #9
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It does not matter what Honda dealer you use my Honda's are expensive to service.

The almost 400.00 for a service would not have been any cheaper at Clyde outboards and if indeed they offered me a mobile service would have been more expensive because traveling time would have been charged.

Taken from the service page on clyde outboards website.

Labour only to service a Honda 90 four stroke 204.00 inc vat
Honda service kit 189,99 inc vat
Total for one service 393.99 inc vat

I rest my case..... Honda's are not cheap to service, the unfortunate thing is I have two.

In 2 years of commercial usage to keep up my commercial warranty the service charges for me would amount to almost 8000.00

Help me here! Are most modern engines reliable, I would say so.

Most other manufacturers give the commercial user a 1 year warranty.

Honda are not miles more reliable than the other outboard guys, I think their two year warranty is to put money in the dealers pocket and take it out of mines the end user.
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Old 25 March 2012, 14:38   #10
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I got quoted 500 for 2 engines all in from my local dealer. Best thing is to ring round different dealers so you can barter them down a bit
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Old 26 March 2012, 03:05   #11
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Sorry you feel that way and it is clear we are not going to convince you otherwise but your post is wrong on many levels and I can tell you are unhappy, however why don't you call me and we can help you.

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OK Clyde-outboards.

Here is my side as a Honda outboard user:

I fish with two Honda 90 fuel injection engines. They have a 2 year commercial warranty and within that period I must use genuine Honda parts.

Honda service kit 189.99 (Any Honda dealer)
Service charge 204.00 ( Your own website)
Service intervals 200 hours ( From My Honda owners manual)

393.99 per service per engine. That's 787.98 per service for me.

I've been doing some sums tonight because Dave said I was so wrong on so many levels......... and he was right! I had under estimated my Honda service costs.

2 years fishing (under the Honda commercial warranty) at 1500 hours per year approx with two Honda 90hp's = 15 services approx.

Unless I have made a mistake that works out at 11819.70 for service costs.

My Honda's seem expensive to service to me.

PS: Almost forgot the service kit does not include the engine oil. That's 4.5L per engine so that's 9L per service for me another 54.00

Oh and I need the pre-filters changed so that's.................... forget it, does anyone want to buy two Honda 90 fuel injection engines ? I'm thinking about changing to another manufacturer.
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OK Clyde-outboards.

Here is my side as a Honda outboard user:

I fish with two Honda 90 fuel injection engines. They have a 2 year commercial warranty and within that period I must use genuine Honda parts.

Honda service kit 189.99 (Any Honda dealer)
Service charge 204.00 ( Your own website)
Service intervals 200 hours ( From My Honda owners manual)

393.99 per service per engine. That's 787.98 per service for me.

I've been doing some sums tonight because Dave said I was so wrong on so many levels......... and he was right! I had under estimated my Honda service costs.

2 years fishing (under the Honda commercial warranty) at 1500 hours per year approx with two Honda 90hp's = 15 services approx.

Unless I have made a mistake that works out at 11819.70 for service costs.

My Honda's seem expensive to service to me.

PS: Almost forgot the service kit does not include the engine oil. That's 4.5L per engine so that's 9L per service for me another 54.00

Oh and I need the pre-filters changed so that's.................... forget it, does anyone want to buy two Honda 90 fuel injection engines ? I'm thinking about changing to another manufacturer.
I feel much better that I own an opti now!!!
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yes, happy to take them and you are still wrong but I notice instead of calling ( you will need to do this so that we can buy them) you just put another post on here that is still wrong.

as I asked before if you actually want to get what you think is a problem solved then please call, if however you want to just slag Honda off please feel free and I will ignore you posts.

my number once again so that I can either solve your problem or buy your engines is 0759 563 8185 oh and you can call any time from 7am-8pm 7 days a week.

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In 2 years of commercial usage to keep up my commercial warranty the service charges for me would amount to almost 8000.00

Help me here! Are most modern engines reliable, I would say so.

Most other manufacturers give the commercial user a 1 year warranty.

Honda are not miles more reliable than the other outboard guys, I think their two year warranty is to put money in the dealers pocket and take it out of mines the end user.
I love your logic there...
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Dave,

I have stated the facts about my Honda servicing costs on my posts.

I have never said my Honda engines are not reliable or any good or slagged them off. I have only stated that they are expensive to service.

I am not selling my engines Dave, it was just a flippant remark, you have to take it in the context it was written in.

You keep saying I'm wrong but I have stated the fact's about my Honda service costings.

If you think I'm wrong please prove what I am saying is wrong and that if I used Clyde outboards my service costs would be any less.
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Gotta luv the Wanda Professionals slagging each other online - way to go guys

ADI, I think if you call him, he'll cut you a deal on servicing
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Thanks Willk,

Now when my friends introduce me as the fisherman, I can say wait a minute.........

I'm Adi the Professional Fisherman now. lol
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I'm Adi the Professional Fisherman now. lol
There's a subtle difference:

An Amateur Fisherman lies about the fish he didn't catch.

A Professional Fisherman lies about the fish he did catch.

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There's a subtle difference:

An Amateur Fisherman lies about the fish he didn't catch.

A Professional Fisherman lies about the fish he did catch.

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