1980's ish Mariner 200hp V6 resurrection - any ideas?

[jezza2011]

My 75hp 2 stroke just had to have its strater motor brushes replaced. easy job. and I was shocked at the start of the old brushes and cables in the starter.

Wish I would have taken a piccy now as they were brittle and no longer made of copper but more carbon. !!!

all made for a very lazy starter. I went throught extra battery power via jump leads all to no avail.


like new now.

[wiLlfish]

Originally Posted by Jonny2488

Ah, illiterate

oi. iyll av yew noe iym a werld famus giraffitti arrtist

rood? yus

[willk]

Originally Posted by wiLlfish

a werld famus giraffitti arrtist

...alsow a membir of the Illiterati, an' a Companyon of the Order of the Bath*

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* generully, wen itt coms too baffs, 'is Companyon mus' ordir hymm too av wun

[Rogue Wave]

Originally Posted by wiLlfish

oi. iyll av yew noe iym a werld famus giraffitti arrtist

more like world famous pi55 artist

and its graffiti you twatt

[willk]

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

and its graffiti you twatt

D'ya think? He has got a lot of neck...

[wiLlfish]

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

and its graffiti you twatt

noe itts nott. itts wot i rit. giraffitti

orl mi werk iz dun hie upp de worl

[Leapy]

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[Leapy]

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

more like world famous pi55 artist

Originally Posted by wiLlfish

orl mi werk iz dun hie upp de worl

Impressive

[willk]

Originally Posted by Leapy

Impressive

Nah! It's just his legs that are long...

[Boats&Outboards]

[QUOTE="Jonny2488"]So after a thorough strip down, clean and rebuild of the carbs yesterday and a general clean up, the engine started and ran perfectly

Only problem is that it wouldn't start using the battery, it required the use of the manual pull cord. So I'm thinking I've either got a battery that's not giving out enough juice or a lazy starter motor?

Any thoughts?

Edited from my original post as ive just read back a bit - dont want to start another debate

I'd check all connections, try another battery, then strip and replaces the brushes in the starter.

If you've come this far it'll be rude not to and there's plenty of life in the old dog yet

[Jonny2488]

Had seen your original post and was wondering if you were looking to start another debate!!

I have seen the very nice looking low hours 225 Mariner you've got for sale, but I got this whole rig at a fraction of the price of just that outboard so I'm not looking to shell out that sort of money anytime soon I'm afraid.

Thanks for the advive, will give it a go.

[Boats&Outboards]

Not at all, was just going to add a bit of humour to the thread but thought again when I seen the previous posts.

I wasn't trying to sell mine to you, it'll sell itself at that money. Hope it works out with your current motor. I ran with one a whole back and the sound they kick out is worth the extra fuel... For my money at least

[Jonny2488]

Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards

I wasn't trying to sell mine to you, it'll sell itself at that money.

Yeah to be fair at that price it will!
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So, I got the fully charged battery hooked up to it tonight with all the relevant cables as it would be usually, and hey presto it started first turn of the key

Seems it just needed a fully charged battery, not surprisingly.

I did notice that there wasn't a massive amout of cooling water coming from the tell tale. Hoping this is just down to a build up of salt and c**p in the tubing and that a good flush through will sort it. Any other thoughts if it's not the simple fix I hope it's going to be?

[Xk59D]

Drop the box off and see how the impeller looks is the best bet. My old 75hp tell tale was weak until it was in the water. Yours could well be the same but it is better to check it anyway.

Cheers

[Boats&Outboards]

Agreed but there's also another thread going on the old V6 models which suggests they tend to pump a bit erratic at times. Assuming the thermostats etc are working, if it's been sat up a while it's worth giving the lower unit a service. You've done everything else

[Jonny2488]

Originally Posted by Xk59D

Drop the box off and see how the impeller looks is the best bet. My old 75hp tell tale was weak until it was in the water. Yours could well be the same but it is better to check it anyway.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards

Agreed but there's also another thread going on the old V6 models which suggests they tend to pump a bit erratic at times. Assuming the thermostats etc are working, if it's been sat up a while it's worth giving the lower unit a service. You've done everything else

Cheers for that guys, will give it a go.

Do you think it's worth me stripping and cleaning the starter motor anyway? Just becuase the battery is now charged and starting the engine ok, doesn't mean that the started couldn't do with some TLC I guess.

[A1an]

Originally Posted by Jonny2488

Cheers for that guys, will give it a go.

Do you think it's worth me stripping and cleaning the starter motor anyway? Just becuase the battery is now charged and starting the engine ok, doesn't mean that the started couldn't do with some TLC I guess.

There is an old saying that I have learned to abide by, "if it aint boke dont fix it"

[Boats&Outboards]

I'd agree to a point but it's not a difficult job to replace the brushes in your starter motor. If you have managed to strip the carbs I'm sure your more able equipped to do the rest.

[uncle al]

if your telltale is a bit erratic on muffs i wouldnt worry to much about it , it is when its in the water there should be a decent telltale, i lost count of the number of times when running on muffs then putting it into the test tank because i wasnt happy about the tell tale, also all the V6 merc/mar range run quite hot,when running on muffs especially if the mains water pressure is low it should be at tickover speeds only.

[Jonny2488]

Originally Posted by A1an

There is an old saying that I have learned to abide by, "if it aint boke dont fix it"

I agree with that, but feel if I'm going to the effort to check and service things, why not include the starter motor?

Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards

I'd agree to a point but it's not a difficult job to replace the brushes in your starter motor. If you have managed to strip the carbs I'm sure your more able equipped to do the rest.

Are the brushes specific to Mariner or will I be able to use any other suitably sized brushes?

Originally Posted by uncle al

if your telltale is a bit erratic on muffs i wouldnt worry to much about it , it is when its in the water there should be a decent telltale, i lost count of the number of times when running on muffs then putting it into the test tank because i wasnt happy about the tell tale, also all the V6 merc/mar range run quite hot,when running on muffs especially if the mains water pressure is low it should be at tickover speeds only.

When I originally said there wasn't much cooling water coming from the tell tale, what I really meant was basically none

Water pressure is alright and the muffs are OK, so I would be hoping to get something at least.